That didnt take long....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

One of the most accomplished first-years of any President, ever

Stem-cell research changes alone were life-altering, outstanding ...

LOL

All he did was change the funding for stem cell research, not actually conduct it.

Funny that despite such a great first year, so many people who approved of him going into that year no longer did after the year.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL

All he did was change the funding for stem cell research, not actually conduct it.

.

Yeah. That's kinda important, though

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah. That's kinda important, though

Its not like there wasnt stem cell research before.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

Its not like there wasnt stem cell research before.

Of course there was. But cutting edge scientific research does so much better with government support, funding and acknowledgment as to it's validity, and when it's not funded equally to creationism

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

Of course there was. But cutting edge scientific research does so much better with government support, funding and acknowledgment as to it's validity, and when it's not funded equally to creationism

There was government funding and support for stem cell research , is the point you are trying to make about embreyo research and that the feds didnt fund it before . Im sure being as well read as you are scientists are finding that using cord blood and other tissues are proving to be more usefull than embreyo's. Just saying.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

There was government funding and support for stem cell research , is the point you are trying to make about embreyo research and that the feds didnt fund it before . Im sure being as well read as you are scientists are finding that using cord blood and other tissues are proving to be more usefull than embreyo's. Just saying.

Bush restricted federal funding to 40 existing cell lines, telling scientists they couldn't use anything else. A political decision based strictly upon one man's certain religious view. And that view was based upon false information (involving abortion, tissue obtainment, etc)

The importance of Obama immediately lifting those restrictions results in the ability of science to use more than those basic cell lines.

Politicians have no business whatsoever inserting their personal religious views into our national and international scientific work.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Funny that despite such a great first year, so many people who approved of him going into that year no longer did after the year.

Alas, doesn't appear so ...

CNN Poll March 26-28th:

Eighty-six percent of Democrats questioned say they approve of the job Obama is doing, a surge of 12 points over the past week. The poll indicates that 47 percent of Independents approve of the president's performance, up 6 points in a week, and 12 percent of Republicans give him the thumbs up, basically unchanged from a week ago.

"Some parts of the Democratic base, particularly lower-income Americans and union households, appear to be coming back into the fold," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Obama's approval rating changed the most among Americans who make less than $25,000 a year - the group that is most likely to benefit from the new health care law."

Among union households, the president's approval rating soared 9 points to 58 percent.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Alas, doesn't appear so ...

When a liberal, pro-labor president is only favorable to 58% of Union households, I wouldnt be real proud of that number.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

When a liberal, pro-labor president is only favorable to 58% of Union households, I wouldnt be real proud of that number.

The guy is governing centrist, with plenty of "to the right" consistency with Bush.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

The guy is governing centrist, with plenty of "to the right" consistency with Bush.

Yeah sure he is...

His voting record in the Senate was left of Bernie Sanders, he has expanded the govt in a frightening manner, he has slobbered all over labor unions, he just created a trillion dollar entitlement program, his Supreme Court nominee was admittedly far left of the center....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYP2OFv54sw

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah sure he is...

His voting record in the Senate was left of Bernie Sanders, he has expanded the govt in a frightening manner, he has slobbered all over labor unions, he just created a trillion dollar entitlement program, his Supreme Court nominee was admittedly far left of the center....

His voting record in the Senate isn't what we are talking about, his Presidency is.

"Frightening expansion" is your opinion, certainly not fact, and not really supported by any evidence if you are referring to healthcare reform (not even a public option) Not really sure what "frightening expansion" you are talking about.

The labor union comment is nothing more than a dig.

The "trillion dollar entitlement program" will cut the deficit by quite a bit, won't it? Trillion or so? But it isn't filled with many 'entitlements' at all, is it?

Yes, his SC appointee is left of center.

What do you think about all the "Bush" he's continued unabated?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

His voting record in the Senate isn't what we are talking about, his Presidency is.

"Frightening expansion" is your opinion, certainly not fact, and not really supported by any evidence if you are referring to healthcare reform (not even a public option) Not really sure what "frightening expansion" you are talking about.

The labor union comment is nothing more than a dig.

The "trillion dollar entitlement program" will cut the deficit by quite a bit, won't it? Trillion or so? But it isn't filled with many 'entitlements' at all, is it?

Yes, his SC appointee is left of center.

What do you think about all the "Bush" he's continued unabated?

The govt hasnt expanded on his watch? We have basically nationalized the auto industry. The govt now controls 18% of the economy via healthcare. Get real

Only someone with their eyes closed wouldnt admit his far left stance on labor.

Banking on the fiction that the deficit being cut doesnt make the program any less liberal. The public option wasnt included because it couldnt pass with it. pretending that it was dropped for any other reason is myopic.

Obama is not a centerist know matter how hard you want to believe it.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

The guy is governing centrist, with plenty of "to the right" consistency with Bush.

Centrist? He's a Maoist.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Centrist? He's a Maoist.

Look out! They are coming to get you! To arms!