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03-29-2010, 04:09 PM
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It's really unfortunate and more than a little bit maddening, because it seems that they've been more concerned with internal audits and reviews and keeping things out the media than they have been concerned with making sure kids aren't getting sexually abused for years now.
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03-29-2010, 04:18 PM
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03-29-2010, 04:21 PM
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Instead, not only are they permitted to keep their jobs, they're permitted to keep jobs where having close contact with children is a necessary and frequent occurrence. So essentially they've continued to allow these men to abuse kids, altering those kids' lives permanently for the worse, in the name of their own self-preservation. It's disgusting.
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03-30-2010, 09:23 PM
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04-01-2010, 07:07 AM
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Well, if we're going to rip apart the Catholics and the Pope, how about a little equal time for that nut Louis Farrakhan and his "Nation of Islam" folks? Or how about the "kill the infidels" phrases that seem to be appearing in other "holy" texts these days...
It's always the Catholics you guys want to pick on. Yes, the scandalous priests, every one of them, should be defrocked and then prosecuted to the full extent of the law. They should never have been priests, and there is no higher offense than to do evil in God's name. I wouldn't give a nickel for their souls, because if you believe in an afterlife, they're going to have a big problem. And I agree that the Catholic "tradition" of having unmarried priests is an anachronism that should have been ended years ago. But such educated statements like "All Catholics are idiots" just speak to the ignorance of some commenters here. If this was a thread bashing Jews, muslims, or non-Catholic Christians, the reaction would be much different I am sure.
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04-01-2010, 07:24 AM
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04-01-2010, 07:46 AM
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You used quotation marks Joeydb. If you use quotations, you are supposed to be quoting someone not paraphrasing. Your implication is that someone actually said exactly what you quoted. That was not the case regardless of the accuracy of your translation.
For the record, I don't think Scuds meant that "all Catholics are idiots" as you wrongly implied. I think he was just saying that the Catholic Church needs to modernize and realize that some of the expectations of the clergy are unrealistic. Unrealistic expectations aren't limited to the "idiots" of the world. Look at horse racing. Filled with unrealistic expectations from people that you would hardly classify as dumb.
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Do you expect anything more from the Catholic church? Its a shame people haven't had a trial yet. If it was me or you we would of be charged at the minimum, maybe had a trial already.
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06-28-2010, 05:05 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100628/...n_church_abuse
Vatican admonishes Austrian cardinal for comments By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer Nicole Winfield, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 50 mins ago VATICAN CITY – The Vatican on Monday issued an unprecedented rebuke of a top cardinal who had accused the retired Vatican No. 2 of blocking clerical sex abuse investigations, publicly dressing down a man who had been praised for his criticism of church abuse cover-ups. The silencing of Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn, the archbishop of Vienna and long considered a papal contender, drew heated criticism from clerical abuse victims. They said the Vatican should be honoring Schoenborn, not publicly humiliating him, for his calls for greater transparency and demands for a crackdown on priests who rape and sodomize children. Schoenborn has also called for an open discussion of priestly celibacy; views that the Vatican said he "clarified" on Monday during an audience with the pope. As it admonished Schoenborn, the Vatican appeared caught on the defensive on two other fronts in the ongoing sex abuse scandal: it remained locked in a diplomatic tiff with Belgium over the brazen raid on church offices last week, during which police detained bishops and even opened a crypt in search of church abuse documents. And it bristled at the U.S. Supreme Court decision to let a sex abuse lawsuit in Oregon naming the Holy See go ahead. Schoenborn had accused the former Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, in April of blocking a church investigation into the late Austrian Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer, who was accused by victims in 1995 of abusing boys at a seminary — a scandal that rocked the Austrian church and cost Groer his job. "With his words, Benedict professes concern for victims. But by his actions, Benedict shows concern for his colleagues," said David Clohessy, executive director of SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests.
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06-28-2010, 08:26 PM
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good news: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37974481/ns/us_news/ Court lets Vatican-sex abuse lawsuit move forward by RACHEL ZOLL AP Religion Writer updated 29 minutes ago A lawsuit against the Vatican that had been dismissed as a publicity stunt moved forward when the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal from the Holy See. Monday's development represents a significant advance for what many believed to be a long-shot claim that the Vatican bears legal responsibility for molester priests. The high court's decision not to stop the lawsuit means the clergy sex abuse case will go to trial in an Oregon district court. "I have known for 25 years that all roads lead to Rome," said Jeff Anderson, the Minnesota attorney who represents the plaintiff. "This is the beginning for us of a new journey, a uniquely difficult odyssey." Anderson, who has represented hundreds of abuse victims and has tried for years to sue the Vaitcan, said he hoped to persuade a judge that he should be allowed to depose Vatican officials. Anderson argues in the case that priests are Vatican employees for the purpose of American law. If the trial judge agrees, that would constitute an exception to the Foreign Sovereign Immunity Act, under which the Vatican has been immune from the jurisdiction of U.S. courts. According to the lawsuit, Ronan, who belonged to a religious order, began abusing boys in the mid-1950s as a priest in the Archdiocese of Armagh, Ireland. He was transferred to Chicago, where he allegedly admitted abusing three boys at St. Philip's High School. Ronan was later moved to a parish in Portland, Ore., where he was accused of abusing the person who filed the lawsuit now under appeal. He was removed from the priesthood in 1966, according to the Archdiocese of Portland, and died in 1992. The Obama administration had sided with the Vatican on the issue of sovereign immunity. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i can't emphatically enough say that i disagree with the obama administration in this.
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