3/36-28 (CD): Derby Future Pool 3

NTamm1215 · #1 03-28-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Eskendereya with Looking and Lucky pays $42 while both of those with all other 3 yr olds pays $94 - $98

While an exacta box with Schoolyard Dreams - is what this thing is all about more digits than spaces 9999

I'm throwing Lucking at Lucky out and boxing some dream bets including Pleasant Prince

I just noticed - for the exacta they don't show a pay off for all other 3 yr olds with all other 3 yr olds.

The exacta can't pay field-field. Thus, if it's a field horse first, the first of the named runners in the pool behind that horse will be the second half of the exacta. For example, a result of field horse-field horse-field horse-Awesome Act would pay on field-Awesome Act.

NT

Indian Charlie · #2 03-28-2010, 02:34 PM

caracortado at 50/1 seems like a good play to me.

RockHardTen1985 · #3 03-28-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

caracortado at 50/1 seems like a good play to me.

OMG...I know, Im 100% sure your joking.

Indian Charlie · #4 03-28-2010, 02:50 PM

Not at all Joseph.

This crop, while not the worst in recent memory, certainly isn't that deep or good.

I fully expect this horse to run a big race if he goes to the Ky Derby.

RockHardTen1985 · #5 03-28-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Not at all Joseph.

This crop, while not the worst in recent memory, certainly isn't that deep or good.

I fully expect this horse to run a big race if he goes to the Ky Derby.

I fully expect him to run 15-20th.

Indian Charlie · #6 03-28-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I fully expect him to run 15-20th.

I am very happy to learn that.

RockHardTen1985 · #7 03-28-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I am very happy to learn that.

No problem...Anyone else you want my opinion on?

Left Bank · #8 03-29-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I fully expect him to run 15-20th.

Kinda like your first time starter did???

SCUDSBROTHER · #9 03-28-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

caracortado at 50/1 seems like a good play to me.

We agree on something. Toss the last. Look at the horse who won the Tokyo Stakes yesterday. He Couldn't get up against that Bernstein horse in the 5th race on the same card. Out wide wasn't the place to be that day. That's why Zenyata was kept inside. Atkinson isn't as smart as Smith. Unfortunately, they are calling for rain on Thursday. So, it wouldn't surprise me if the track is irregular again next Saturday. CARACORTADO has a huge heart. Don't underestimate him. Right now, I'd need at least 50/1, because he's a little small to be holding on(late) going 10f. Yea, it's important. Look at the difference in head size between the 2 top finishers in the Dubai World Cup. Also, he's 32nd (or whatever) on the graded money list. If they put a bad one in next Saturday, most of those horses in the Santa Anita Derby will be in bad shape. He's worth 50-1.

the_fat_man · #10 03-29-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

We agree on something. Toss the last. Look at the horse who won the Tokyo Stakes yesterday. He Couldn't get up against that Bernstein horse in the 5th race on the same card. Out wide wasn't the place to be that day. That's why Zenyata was kept inside. Atkinson isn't as smart as Smith. Unfortunately, they are calling for rain on Thursday. So, it wouldn't surprise me if the track is irregular again next Saturday. CARACORTADO has a huge heart. Don't underestimate him. Right now, I'd need at least 50/1, because he's a little small to be holding on(late) going 10f. Yea, it's important. Look at the difference in head size between the 2 top finishers in the Dubai World Cup. Also, he's 32nd (or whatever) on the graded money list. If they put a bad one in next Saturday, most of those horses in the Santa Anita Derby will be in bad shape. He's worth 50-1.

In other words, Caracortado got a perfect trip in the RBL and just about the best trip one could ever imagine in the CBC. When it came time for him to show that he could run without the best possible trip, he clunked up for 3rd in the SF. Wake me up when this guy runs an against the grain race.

SCUDSBROTHER · #11 03-29-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

In other words, Caracortado got a perfect trip in the RBL and just about the best trip one could ever imagine in the CBC. When it came time for him to show that he could run without the best possible trip, he clunked up for 3rd in the SF. Wake me up when this guy runs an against the grain race.

I'm saying throw out the races that took place at Anita on March 13th. You see that little rat trying to hold on from the 1 hole against Zenyata? They couldn't run that hog down for place. I know that was a fkd up inside speed biased track. Look at the huge move from Interactif on the turn. That's an inside move. Caracortado wasn't getting his moneysworth out there. He ran his same race, but he was running on a much heavier surface than the top 2 were running on. The horse who won the 5th? Never been able to hold on before at Anita. No matter how slow the pace. He'd always been caught. March 13th he found something he really liked. Tap It Light couldn't get to him with the wide move (same as Caracortado couldn't make up ground out there.) Tap It just came back to win the Grade 3 feature on Saturday. You should excuse horses that tried to make outside moves on March 13th. No matter what this guy does next, excuse anybody trying to make a wide move on March 13th.

blackthroatedwind · #12 03-29-2010, 12:51 PM

Caracortado has about as much chance to win the Derby as me and the Fat Man in a horse suit.

Next.

NTamm1215 · #13 03-29-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Caracortado has about as much chance to win the Derby as me and the Fat Man in a horse suit.

Is Dominguez riding cause your Future Pool 3 price might have been lower than Connemara and Aikenite?

NT

SCUDSBROTHER · #14 03-29-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Caracortado has about as much chance to win the Derby as me and the Fat Man in a horse suit.

Next.

O.K., then give me 100-1. Make some easy bagel money.

DaTruth · #15 03-29-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Caracortado has about as much chance to win the Derby as me and the Fat Man in a horse suit.

Next.

and the two of you riding a tandem bike? TFM might be able to utilize some of the race riding tactics he has picked up at his local velodrome.

Left Bank · #16 03-29-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Caracortado has about as much chance to win the Derby as me and the Fat Man in a horse suit.

Next.

Now THAT is something I would like to see.

RockHardTen1985 · #17 03-29-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Caracortado has about as much chance to win the Derby as me and the Fat Man in a horse suit.

Next.

I really love it when the BIG GUNS AGREE WITH ME.

the_fat_man · #18 03-29-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I'm saying throw out the races that took place at Anita on March 6th. You see that little rat trying to hold on from the 1 hole against Zenyata? They couldn't run that hog down for place. I know that was a fkd up inside speed biased track. Look at the huge move from Interactif on the turn. That's an inside move. Caracortado wasn't getting his moneysworth out there. He ran his same race, but he was running on a much heavier surface than the top 2 were running on. The horse who won the 5th? Never been able to hold on before at Anita. No matter how slow the pace. He'd always been caught. March 6th he found something he really liked. Tap It Light couldn't get to him with the wide move (same as Caracortado couldn't make up ground out there.) Tap It just came back to win the Grade 3 feature on Saturday. You should excuse horses that tried to make outside moves on March 6th. No matter what this guy does next, excuse anybody trying to make a wide move on March 6th.

I really wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt here and took a look at a single race to see if there was a bias against outside runs. The race I looked at was the 7th, where Alphie's Bet was wide throughout, was in the 4th path on the turn, entered in the 4 path (which, btw, is where Coracortado was) and blew them away in the stretch. Now, this was a multi-move race and AB got a decent setup but this kind of works against your theory. You'd be better served to try to understand race types and the timing of moves.

blackthroatedwind · #19 03-29-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I really wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt here and took a look at a single race to see if there was a bias against outside runs. The race I looked at was the 7th, where Alphie's Bet was wide throughout, was in the 4th path on the turn, entered in the 4 path (which, btw, is where Coracortado was) and blew them away in the stretch. Now, this was a multi-move race and AB got a decent setup but this kind of works against your theory. You'd be better served to try to understand race types and the timing of moves.

You actually wasted your invaluable time to see if there was any validity to his opinion?

Haven't you seen his posts in the past? He's never right.

SCUDSBROTHER · #20 03-29-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I really wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt here and took a look at a single race to see if there was a bias against outside runs. The race I looked at was the 7th, where Alphie's Bet was wide throughout, was in the 4th path on the turn, entered in the 4 path (which, btw, is where Coracortado was) and blew them away in the stretch. Now, this was a multi-move race and AB got a decent setup but this kind of works against your theory. You'd be better served to try to understand race types and the timing of moves.

LOL.......March 13th....