Ok so how is this Bush's Fault

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Wow what the Democrats misinforming the American public again. Hmmm!!!! What do you know Pelosi playing politics. Thats a new one on me. Hopefully her and Reid's day will come soon. The trash in DC needs to be cleaned up. It doesn't look like to me that the Dems are trying anything with big oil to lower gas prices.

Ok, so in your opinion GAS prices, a non-life essential product, should be regulated by the government- whereas HEALTHCARE, a life essential product, should not be?

You sir, fail Economics 101 and Political Science 101.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by philcski

Ok, so in your opinion GAS prices, a non-life essential product, should be regulated by the government- whereas HEALTHCARE, a life essential product, should not be?

You sir, fail Economics 101 and Political Science 101.

it's no a question of regulation , it's a question of misleading the american people into believing that somehow bush and the republican congress were in bed with the big oil co's to soak the american people on gas px's.

it's pretty simply , it's not as complicated as our friend dala from inside the beltway wants everyone to believe

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by philcski

Ok, so in your opinion GAS prices, a non-life essential product, should be regulated by the government- whereas HEALTHCARE, a life essential product, should not be?

You sir, fail Economics 101 and Political Science 101.

Did I ever say that healthcare shouldn't be regulated? Maybe you need to borrow my glasses and make sure your reading correctly. Im sure you voted for O'Dumbass, enjoy the next 2 1/2 years with him and watch this countries economy getting worse.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Did I ever say that healthcare shouldn't be regulated? Maybe you need to borrow my glasses and make sure your reading correctly. Im sure you voted for O'Dumbass, enjoy the next 2 1/2 years with him and watch this countries economy getting worse.

Every time you call our president "O'Dumbass" and lambaste his healthcare bill, which in its current form has a lot more to do with regulation of the healthcare industry and much less about "handouts" (which aren't part of the bill in any way despite your claims, which if you had read my link you would know this.)

This is officially funny at this point.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by philcski

Every time you call our president "O'Dumbass" and lambaste his healthcare bill, which in its current form has a lot more to do with regulation of the healthcare industry and much less about "handouts" (which aren't part of the bill in any way despite your claims, which if you had read my link you would know this.)

This is officially funny at this point.

Isn't there going to be a few people getting health insurance for free. Dont you call that getting a handout? Im talking about people who can work but aren't working and they aren't looking for a job. I guess you think thats okay. Isn't it true that people will be paying for this so called insurance and won't be able to use it until 2014. By that time O'DUMBASS will be long gone. Some health insurance when people will be paying into it and cant use it.

[Smooth Operator]

What are those AZ teabaggers gunna do now that their hero … Sarah The Quitter … is out there stumping for "rino" McCain???

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Isn't there going to be a few people getting health insurance for free. Dont you call that getting a handout? Im talking about people who can work but aren't working and they aren't looking for a job. I guess you think thats okay. Isn't it true that people will be paying for this so called insurance and won't be able to use it until 2014. By that time O'DUMBASS will be long gone. Some health insurance when people will be paying into it and cant use it.

NO... they're won't be anyone getting health insurance for free.

The closest to "free" will be people who ARE working, yet not making enough to comfortably purchase coverage on the state health insurance exchanges, will receive tax credits to help pay for them. Hardly even close to free, especially considering the value of tax credits individuals (read: they aren't all they're cracked up to be.)

Again, if you would read the fact sheet I posted instead of making sh1t up you would be a lot more informed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L2CT20100322

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by philcski

NO... they're won't be anyone getting health insurance for free.

The closest to "free" will be people who ARE working, yet not making enough to comfortably purchase coverage on the state health insurance exchanges, will receive tax credits to help pay for them. Hardly even close to free, especially considering the value of tax credits individuals (read: they aren't all they're cracked up to be.)

Again, if you would ask your night school teacher to read you the fact sheet I posted instead of making sh1t up you would be a lot more informed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L2CT20100322

FTFY

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by philcski

NO... they're won't be anyone getting health insurance for free.

The closest to "free" will be people who ARE working, yet not making enough to comfortably purchase coverage on the state health insurance exchanges, will receive tax credits to help pay for them. Hardly even close to free, especially considering the value of tax credits individuals (read: they aren't all they're cracked up to be.)

Again, if you would read the fact sheet I posted instead of making sh1t up you would be a lot more informed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L2CT20100322

All im asking is a question. Obviously you take offense if a question is asked. Maybe its because I wont kiss O'Dumbass' @ss like the rest of you people want to. I will be glad when November gets here for voting. All I have to push is one button. I have no problems with a working person getting help for paying for it. The only sh1t around here is you. I do have a question is it true that lots of people will have to wait until 2013-2014 to use this insurance? If this true then how is this insurance going to help out the American public?

[gales0678]

so how's everyone doing with thosr $3+ gas prices

[jms62]

Originally Posted by philcski

NO... they're won't be anyone getting health insurance for free.

The closest to "free" will be people who ARE working, yet not making enough to comfortably purchase coverage on the state health insurance exchanges, will receive tax credits to help pay for them. Hardly even close to free, especially considering the value of tax credits individuals (read: they aren't all they're cracked up to be.)

Again, if you would read the fact sheet I posted instead of making sh1t up you would be a lot more informed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L2CT20100322

You can't have an intelligent conversation with a stone so why waste your time. This nitwit hardly even reads the headlines.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

You can't have an intelligent conversation with a stone so why waste your time. This nitwit hardly even reads the headlines.

I have to commend you. Your not using anyone else's quotes. Maybe you do actually have a brain cell. In reality I do doubt you having a brain cell unless your sitting on it.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Isn't there going to be a few people getting health insurance for free.

LOL.

[hi_im_god]

the most common lie in american politics is any politician saying they care deeply about american dependence on foreign oil.

it's usually framed as a national security issue by republican's and a national security and environmental issue by democrats.

and it's quickly followed by an offer of cheap gas if you'd only elect them.

why? because they know their audience. no politician ever lost an election by underestimating the maturity or intelligence of the american voter.

any politician that tried to explain the long term benefits of $4-$5/gal gas would finish behind the transvestite-communist party candidate.

both sides play loose with facts on this subject. shocker.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by philcski

Ok, so in your opinion GAS prices, a non-life essential product, should be regulated by the government- whereas HEALTHCARE, a life essential product, should not be?

A non-life essential product? I guess you didn't watch the National Geographic special on March 8 - A WORLD WITHOUT OIL.

Lack of health care would take a back seat to the crises of no oil.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

I don't profess to understand how oil prices work - there are so many pundits with their own theories. I just know that in 1999, gas was about $1.00 a gallon, and now it's $3.00 a gallon and diesel, which should cost less than any grade of regular gasoline, costs more than hi-test.

The world has become dependent on oil - not just the United States. Chaos would reign if the world ran out of oil. I'd venture to say that 40% of the U.S. oil usage is for non-transportation usage.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

A non-life essential product? I guess you didn't watch the National Geographic special on March 8 - A WORLD WITHOUT OIL.

Lack of health care would take a back seat to the crises of no oil.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

I don't profess to understand how oil prices work - there are so many pundits with their own theories. I just know that in 1999, gas was about $1.00 a gallon, and now it's $3.00 a gallon and diesel, which should cost less than any grade of regular gasoline, costs more than hi-test.

The world has become dependent on oil - not just the United States. Chaos would reign if the world ran out of oil. I'd venture to say that 40% of the U.S. oil usage is for non-transportation usage.

he was talking about regulation of gas prices, not about oil. as for diesel, prices depend on supply and demand. huge demand for diesel, of course the price will rise.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he was talking about regulation of gas prices, not about oil. as for diesel, prices depend on supply and demand. huge demand for diesel, of course the price will rise.

No, he said, "a non-life essential product".

That's all well and good about the usage of diesel, but it's cheaper to process than regular gasoline - so it shouldn't cost more. Supposedly, the price of diesel was supposed to drop drastically after the 2009 Summer Olympics in China, and it did a bit, but now it's going back up.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

No, he said, "a non-life essential product".

That's all well and good about the usage of diesel, but it's cheaper to process than regular gasoline - so it shouldn't cost more. Supposedly, the price of diesel was supposed to drop drastically after the 2009 Summer Olympics in China, and it did a bit, but now it's going back up.

i know what he said, he said gas prices, a non essential product-and then you started spouting off about oil in response. those are comparing apples and oranges. gas is a product of oil. oil produces a number of products, gas being just one of them.

as for diesel, i know it's a by product. i also know demand is high as ever. of course the price will follow.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i know what he said, he said gas prices, a non essential product-and then you started spouting off about oil in response. those are comparing apples and oranges. gas is a product of oil. oil produces a number of products, gas being just one of them.

as for diesel, i know it's a by product. i also know demand is high as ever. of course the price will follow.

JHC - how you cherry pick what I have to say just so you can grouse in return. Hope Philcski isn't paying you too much to be his spokesperson. And, yes, I know that gasoline is a by-product of oil, and it is a life-essential product.

Take a bit of time to read the web-site I posted about the NG special that was on back in March - THE WORLD WITHOUT OIL. I do have a knowledge base other than what's posted on horse forums.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

<<At five days after the oil disappears, the theory is that the United States would be reduced to martial law as gas stations run out of gasoline and stores begin to run out of food because there isn't enough fuel to keep supplies coming in. Armed guards are needed to simply allow citizens into stores to pick through half-rotten food - which is all that is available.>>

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

JHC - how you cherry pick what I have to say just so you can grouse in return. Hope Philcski isn't paying you too much to be his spokesperson. And, yes, I know that gasoline is a by-product of oil, and it is a life-essential product.

Take a bit of time to read the web-site I posted about the NG special that was on back in March - THE WORLD WITHOUT OIL. I do have a knowledge base other than what's posted on horse forums.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

<<At five days after the oil disappears, the theory is that the United States would be reduced to martial law as gas stations run out of gasoline and stores begin to run out of food because there isn't enough fuel to keep supplies coming in. Armed guards are needed to simply allow citizens into stores to pick through half-rotten food - which is all that is available.>>

why do you keep going to oil, when the original post mentioned gasoline? that's what i don't understand. how is gas 'life essential'? there are other fuels that could take it's place pretty quickly. it's certainly far from essential. food is essential, so's water...i'd give up gasoline before i gave up refrigeration, electricity, etc. as for phil, i'm sure he can speak for himself just fine. not sure what your point was there. funny tho, when i reply to you, you're the only one accusing me of cherry picking. but then, maybe rupert is just trying to think of a retort to my post about barrack. or maybe you take these discussions far more personally than many? i'm just enjoying the discussion, sorry if you feel picked on when someone disagrees with you.