How a horse improves by 20+ lengths in a month...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by jms62

Combining the starters from post 9 and out doesn't give you a realistic picture. Only 1 horse can win a race and based upon your 62/265 stat there were 265 races. Post 8 and out has won 66 of the 265 races.

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

Go look at post stats for all the winter tracks and you'll see FG's sticks out like a sore thumb.

Post 1 66 for 265
Post 7 20 for 225
Post 8 12 for 171
Post 9 7 for 120
Post 10 7 for 87
Post 11 1 for 53

[jms62]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

Go look at post stats for all the winter tracks and you'll see FG's sticks out like a sore thumb.

Post 1 66 for 265
Post 7 20 for 225
Post 8 12 for 171
Post 9 7 for 120
Post 10 7 for 87
Post 11 1 for 53

Post position #1 has won 62 of 265 FG dirt routes this meet. That's 23.4% wins. Post positions 8 and out are a combined 66 for 907.

I have no idea what I am talking about? 12 + 7 + 7 + 1 = 27 which is a hell of a lot different than 66 which you stated and I commented about.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by jms62

I have no idea what I am talking about? 12 + 7 + 7 + 1 = 27 which is a hell of a lot different than 66 which you stated and I commented about.

Let me try this again ....

Post 6: 19 for 251
Post 7: 20 for 225
Post 8: 12 for 171
Post 9: 7 for 120
Post 10: 7 for 87
Post 11: 1 for 53

That's a combined 66 wins.

Post 1 is 62 for 265.

Sometimes its best looking stuff up instead of going on memory all the time.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Let me try this again ....

Post 6: 19 for 251
Post 7: 20 for 225
Post 8: 12 for 171
Post 9: 7 for 120
Post 10: 7 for 87
Post 11: 1 for 53

That's a combined 66 wins.

Post 1 is 62 for 265.

Post position #1 has won 62 of 265 FG dirt routes this meet. That's 23.4% wins. Post positions 8 and out are a combined 66 for 907

Now it makes sense and your point is well taken.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by jms62

Try again.

I went on memory and should have said 6 instead of 8.

The point is this that 62 for 265 is 23.4%

66 for 907 is 7.3%

23.4% is huge - 7.3% is surprisingly low.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I went on memory and should have said 6 instead of 8.

The point is this that 62 for 265 is 23.4%

66 for 907 is 7.3%

23.4% is huge - 7.3% is surprisingly low.

No problem I would do it different as I see it as 265 events not 907 starts but it is your money.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by jms62

No problem I would do it different as I see it as 265 events not 907 starts but it is your money.

If I posted stats for 20 tracks - and both sprints and routes.. you'll have 40 sets of data.

You'll notice that 39 of the 40 sets look similar - and one FG's dirt routes .. sticks out like a sore thumb with wildly skewed numbers in relation to everywhere else.

In the dirt sprints at FG - post 1 wins 16% - which is only 3 percentage points better than the next best post at 13%.

[Fulla Sheets]

Oscar Berrera Jr claimed a horse named Afrikaner on March 3rd for $10,000. Then enters him into a conditioned $50,000 starters alowance race on March 20. He was eventually scratched though. Is this somewhat like what his father used to do?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Fulla Sheets

Oscar Berrera Jr claimed a horse named Afrikaner on March 3rd for $10,000. Then enters him into a conditioned $50,000 starters alowance race on March 20. He was eventually scratched though. Is this somewhat like what his father used to do?

Oscar Berrera Jr. is like a training genius compared to what his father was in his final years in the late 80's and early 90's.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Fulla Sheets

Oscar Berrera Jr claimed a horse named Afrikaner on March 3rd for $10,000. Then enters him into a conditioned $50,000 starters alowance race on March 20. He was eventually scratched though. Is this somewhat like what his father used to do?

No he would have entered him in a real allowance race and won off the screen.