Odysseus pre-Derby start at KEE or OP

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

what you ignore is that accurate numbers can help predict race dynamics, i.e. good pace figures, and also tell you how capable a horse is under optimal conditions....which is what you ( and I mean YOU specifically in this case ) are looking for when you bet a horse. This is a flaw in your game...as you are as dogmatic as many sheet players

Everything has its place. That doesn't mean we need to use and understand everything....but the more factors we understand and use effectively the better we will do.

You're making an assumption here:

1) that numeric pace is a larger set than setups

I have reasons for thinking that this is just not the case. So, basically, I'm being dogmatic because I don't want to go from the more to the less comprehensive?

I think anyone new to the game should just stay away from numbers (of any kind). They should focus on understanding race dynamics and when they get to a certain level they can then incorporate numbers into their game. This is clearly not the way things are done, as reading comments for just about any race clearly indicates how lacking people are when it comes to understanding race dynamics. Of course, they certain don't lack the ability to point out the fast or slow horses. Anybody can reason about regularities in a model. The idea, however, is to understand how they apply to the thing that's modeled.