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Old 03-23-2010, 09:23 AM
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I can see her moving forward off of the prep, however aren't you somewhat off that she was only 50% fit going in? To me she looked closer to 85% fit. What was evident was the lack of high cruising speed she showed in 09. That is what I would be concerned more with rather than the fitness part, if indeed she is to not lose again the rest of the year as you have guaranteed.
Im not concerned about anything I saw in that race. I saw the Rachel I know, all heart but poor conditioning. She was rushed into that race and now they will take the proper time to have her ready next time out. You will see the Rachel of last year in her next race
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:30 AM
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Im not concerned about anything I saw in that race. I saw the Rachel I know, all heart but poor conditioning. She was rushed into that race and now they will take the proper time to have her ready next time out. You will see the Rachel of last year in her next race
It was a prep race designed to get her ready for the Apple Blossom 1 day short of 4 weeks away, if Zardana stayed in California, Rachel would have won by 10 or 11 and it would have been a perfect conditioning race for her. I don't see how one can be rushed for a prep race?
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:49 AM
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It was a prep race designed to get her ready for the Apple Blossom 1 day short of 4 weeks away, if Zardana stayed in California, Rachel would have won by 10 or 11 and it would have been a perfect conditioning race for her. I don't see how one can be rushed for a prep race?
Yes, it was supposed to be a prep. But they weren't expecting it to be any kind of race. She was supposed to glide to the front and win in hand. Just a paid workout. They weren't expecting her to have to be all out in the stretch. I'm not a trainer either, but I'm guessing it was too much too soon for her and they thought that she would maybe regress going into the AB.
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:37 AM
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Yes, it was supposed to be a prep. But they weren't expecting it to be any kind of race. She was supposed to glide to the front and win in hand. Just a paid workout. They weren't expecting her to have to be all out in the stretch. I'm not a trainer either, but I'm guessing it was too much too soon for her and they thought that she would maybe regress going into the AB.
I disagree this was exactly the type of race (to have a workmate in Zardana) where a horse would get the most out of a race to improve her conditioning, from what I saw she was not running all out in the stretch, as she was ridden not to win. Just watch Borel's hands, he was protecting her for her next start rather than trying to win a race at all costs. Now it's anyone's guess why JJ avoided the Apple Blossom (though I have a good idea why...) only 30 mins after his trainer declared that she came out of the race in great shape. She beyered 100 so that fits the 85% readiness, a rushed horse running at 85% of her ability doesn't equate to me.
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:39 AM
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So win the Breeders Cup Distaff (which is the top filly and mare race to win)....then win the Classic (the top race of all races for older horses to win).............and somehow you have been managed into your reputation.

Good grief
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:43 AM
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So win the Breeders Cup Distaff (which is the top filly and mare race to win)....then win the Classic (the top race of all races for older horses to win).............and somehow you have been managed into your reputation.

Good grief
Where were those races run again? Oh yea at her home track on used condoms
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It's kind of funny, that this debate has gotten so heated/argumentative and honestly out of hand that it's turned some Rachael fans totally against Zenyatta and vice versa. Kind of like Yankees Red Sox. Almost like you can't root for Zenyatta if you are for Rachael and so on.
I'll be honest and say for a while I had mixed emotions whether I wanted Zenyatta to win or lose her comback after Rachael lost earlier in the day.
Then after the fact, I personally realized that both the girls are great for the game and that I was glad that Zenyatta was able to stay perfect. Both have been very good/impressive in their own ways and deserve all the accolades that they have recieved. I hope they both continue to be successful (obviously healthy) as they continue with their 2010 campaigns. It would be nice to see them race, but I would settle at this point if they just continue to race throughout 2010.
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:57 PM
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Where were those races run again? Oh yea at her home track on used condoms
So you are saying it would have been better for her to be managed differently instead of those two races in mind?

You have to play the hand your dealt, it in no way changes the success.

I got news for you, she would have cleaned Music Notes clock at Belmont as well.

Carl Lewis would have won the gold in 84' if they ran the 100 in sand, he was just better then they were.
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It was a prep race designed to get her ready for the Apple Blossom 1 day short of 4 weeks away, if Zardana stayed in California, Rachel would have won by 10 or 11 and it would have been a perfect conditioning race for her. I don't see how one can be rushed for a prep race?
Ill give you 5million reasons she was rushed into that "prep race" No way she runs in that race if the AB wasnt right around the corner. She still wouldnt have race this year. Im thinking this or next weekend would of been ideal for her return.
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