Dubai criminals doing their usual fine job of Derby prepping

[eajinabi]

I dont see the co-relation between your subject title (Dubai criminals doing their usual fine job of Derby prepping) and the actual article. Please explain

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

I dont see the co-relation between your subject title (Dubai criminals doing their usual fine job of Derby prepping) and the actual article. Please explain

i was wondering myself....whats the criminal part? its criminal because a horse is sick????hurt???

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

i was wondering myself....whats the criminal part? its criminal because a horse is sick????hurt???

Well so far in the last two years Godolphin has had the following 3YOs who had previously started in America in Dubai for the winter:

Midshipman
Vineyard Haven
Regal Ransom
Desert Party
City Style
Girolamo
Vale of York
Tahitian Warrior

Only two of these horses even made it to the Ky Derby starting gate and we all know how they did. Their record of preparing 3YOs in Dubai is not good.

NT

[Linny]

Midshipman went bad last year but did run well on the return. Regal Ransom and Girlamo were productive 3yos. Vineyard Haven won a couple of good races.
The ones they have this year were no-hopers anyhow. They ran Tahitian Warrior at 9f on grass last time.

I would rather that these horses stay in the US with either McLaughlin or Albertrani or Rick Mettee, but when you look at the promising 2yo's of the last 20 years and how few made the Derby, they are about on par. last I knew it wasn't "criminal" to send horses to to bad trainers. It happens in the US every day.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Well so far in the last two years Godolphin has had the following 3YOs who had previously started in America in Dubai for the winter:

Midshipman
Vineyard Haven
Regal Ransom
Desert Party
City Style
Girolamo
Vale of York
Tahitian Warrior

Only two of these horses even made it to the Ky Derby starting gate and we all know how they did. Their record of preparing 3YOs in Dubai is not good.

NT

I get that but the criminal part still escapes me.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Well so far in the last two years Godolphin has had the following 3YOs who had previously started in America in Dubai for the winter:

Midshipman
Vineyard Haven
Regal Ransom
Desert Party
City Style
Girolamo
Vale of York
Tahitian Warrior

Only two of these horses even made it to the Ky Derby starting gate and we all know how they did. Their record of preparing 3YOs in Dubai is not good.

NT

yeah , what happened to, i want revenge, quality road, dunkirk and summer bird.......hurt, hurt, hurt and hurt. i guess there are criminals abound? its part of any sport, human or animal.

[tector]

If I gave Bob Baffert 1/10th of the money these thieves have hopelessly squandered on their Derby quest in the past dozen years or more, he would have won at least 5 of the past 10 Derbies. And I put the over under on Pletcher and Zito at two--that's how hopelessly inept Dubai Inc. is. Their Derby ROI would embarrass Bernie Madoff.

And if you still don't understand how these characters are arch-criminals by now, rehashing the issue, again, is not going to faze you. There is no cure for willful obliviousness.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by tector

If I gave Bob Baffert 1/10th of the money these thieves have hopelessly squandered on their Derby quest in the past dozen years or more, he would have won at least 5 of the past 10 Derbies. And I put the over under on Pletcher and Zito at two--that's how hopelessly inept Dubai Inc. is. Their Derby ROI would embarrass Bernie Madoff.

And if you still don't understand how these characters are arch-criminals by now, rehashing the issue, again, is not going to faze you. There is no cure for willful obliviousness.

How are these guys criminals again? They stole somebody's horse(s)? They paid good money for the horses they bought (you can argue that they paid more than they should). The previous owners of these horses could have said no and not sold thier horse to dubai and give it to Baffert to train but the dollar sign speaks volume. If they want to "squander" thier money then its thier choice and thier money thats being squandered -NOT YOURS or MINE. Why must you put your two cents in commentary about thier financial decisions?

If they could not produce derby contenders then they must work on it. Other than 3yo derby prospects, you can say they earned thier due in Europe, Asia, N. America etc. in all other G1 races.

[slotdirt]

I still miss West Side Bernie.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by tector

If I gave Bob Baffert 1/10th of the money these thieves have hopelessly squandered on their Derby quest in the past dozen years or more, he would have won at least 5 of the past 10 Derbies. And I put the over under on Pletcher and Zito at two--that's how hopelessly inept Dubai Inc. is. Their Derby ROI would embarrass Bernie Madoff.

And if you still don't understand how these characters are arch-criminals by now, rehashing the issue, again, is not going to faze you. There is no cure for willful obliviousness.

You have been asked what 4 or 5 times to clarify your statement and this is the best you can do? Your answer is absurd.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by tector

If I gave Bob Baffert 1/10th of the money these thieves have hopelessly squandered on their Derby quest in the past dozen years or more, he would have won at least 5 of the past 10 Derbies. And I put the over under on Pletcher and Zito at two--that's how hopelessly inept Dubai Inc. is. Their Derby ROI would embarrass Bernie Madoff.

And if you still don't understand how these characters are arch-criminals by now, rehashing the issue, again, is not going to faze you. There is no cure for willful obliviousness.

Pletcher? Pletcher????

[tector]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Pletcher? Pletcher????

An extreme example, I know, but there you have it. That is the measure of how incredibly, and arrogantly, inept these clowns have been.