Trappe Shot

RolloTomasi · #1 03-21-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

LOL Maybe so. Well, it turned out well for Miner's Reserve, did it not? He finished next to last. On the other hand, to be fair to Zito, perhaps it turned out that way because the colt's maiden win was a fraud rather than it being a bad decision on Zito's part.

Actually, from the pre-race interview, it seemed as though the genius Kent Desormeaux went over Zito's head and talked the owner into running (one can imagine Big Brown's name being invoked in that phone call). Zito, who didn't seem too pleased telling the story (he said Desormeaux was "politicing"), likely had little to do with it, and ended up with a black spot on his otherwise big day.

Of course, Desormeaux pulled out all the stops to make himself look smart, taking the colt wide into the turn while restraining the colt early, disarming his best weapon, his early speed.

Don't be surpised to see a new jockey on next time out.

Monarchos1 · #2 03-22-2010, 09:17 AM

[quote=RolloTomasi]Actually, from the pre-race interview, it seemed as though the genius Kent Desormeaux went over Zito's head and talked the owner into running (one can imagine Big Brown's name being invoked in that phone call). Zito, who didn't seem too pleased telling the story (he said Desormeaux was "politicing"), likely had little to do with it, and ended up with a black spot on his otherwise big day.

I read multiple quotes from Zito, Desormeaux and LaPenta in which all stated that the jock convinced the owner to run Miner's Reserve. I believe one Zito statement was something like, "I had other plans for the horse."

Kent needs to stick to riding and LaPenta needs to listen to his Hall of Fame trainer.

blackthroatedwind · #3 03-22-2010, 09:25 AM

Admit it, you guys only like Trappe Shot because you watched him on Trips&Traps after his debut.

Oh yeah, Ice Box made an appearance as well after his debut.

RolloTomasi · #4 03-22-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Admit it, you guys only like Trappe Shot because you watched him on Trips&Traps after his debut.

Oh yeah, Ice Box made an appearance as well after his debut.

Clearly, you have an affinity for all things Pulpit.

What do you think of Sky Mesa as a sire?

Betsy · #5 03-22-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Clearly, you have an affinity for all things Pulpit.

What do you think of Sky Mesa as a sire?

I think he's overrated, what do you think? LOL

I love Indy and yes, I love Pulpit; he was a brilliant horse.

Betsy · #6 03-22-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Admit it, you guys only like Trappe Shot because you watched him on Trips&Traps after his debut.

Oh yeah, Ice Box made an appearance as well after his debut.

I'm sorry to say I missed it that day....

RockHardTen1985 · #7 03-22-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I'm sorry to say I missed it that day....

He was really high on this horse, I think he called him a future star.

blackthroatedwind · #8 03-22-2010, 07:17 PM

The second race shown.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBsko...EB24C&index=42

RockHardTen1985 · #9 03-22-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The second race shown.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBsko...EB24C&index=42

WHat are you sitting on? In this episode your a few inches taller then Eric. This cant be possible.

Betsy · #10 03-22-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The second race shown.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBsko...EB24C&index=42

This is the first time I've seen his debut; I had no idea he broke that badly. He did show a terrific turn of foot after that break - a very forward-thinking Trips and Taps because he is awfully talented. I'm going to try and go to Belmont for the Withers.

Betsy · #11 03-22-2010, 05:36 PM

[quote=Monarchos1]

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Actually, from the pre-race interview, it seemed as though the genius Kent Desormeaux went over Zito's head and talked the owner into running (one can imagine Big Brown's name being invoked in that phone call). Zito, who didn't seem too pleased telling the story (he said Desormeaux was "politicing"), likely had little to do with it, and ended up with a black spot on his otherwise big day.

I read multiple quotes from Zito, Desormeaux and LaPenta in which all stated that the jock convinced the owner to run Miner's Reserve. I believe one Zito statement was something like, "I had other plans for the horse."

Kent needs to stick to riding and LaPenta needs to listen to his Hall of Fame trainer.

Blame Nick, as he was the one who allowed himself to get talked into it, if you're going to blame anyone.

blackthroatedwind · #12 03-22-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

Blame Nick, as he was the one who allowed himself to get talked into it, if you're going to blame anyone.

Just be sure to credit him for the fine job he did bringing Ice Box along slowly and deliberately to his Florida Derby victory.

It's an imperfect world and you can't please all the people all the time.

Betsy · #13 03-22-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Just be sure to credit him for the fine job he did bringing Ice Box along slowly and deliberately to his Florida Derby victory.

It's an imperfect world and you can't please all the people all the time.

He deserves that, absolutely. I like Nick, I just disagreed with the move. On the other hand, I love that he's taking Fly Down to the LA Derby no matter how it works out.