Lava Man or Funny Cide?

somerfrost · #1 09-27-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FairPlay

Which horse is greater? How will history judge them if the racing world ended today? Which one is the "gelding of the decade?"

Wow...interesting question, they are closer than many think:
Lava Man...33/13-7-3 $3,504,706 6 grade one wins
Funny Cide..33/10-6-6 $3,443,103 3 grade one wins
Right now, I'd go with Lava Man as he appears to be getting better and still obviously a grade one horse, Funny Cide could regain old form but it's doubtful, I'd say he's a grade two horse and dropping. Still...a Derby winner is a Derby winner! Interesting that they each have 33 starts!

Gander · #2 09-27-2006, 02:51 PM

Tough question. I love them both. Funny Cide had a brilliant 3 year old campaign but apart from that has only 1 significant win as an older horse in the Jockey Club Gold Cup in 2004. Throw in a lot of pitiful efforts and he gets hazed and made fun of by many people.

Lava Man was a claimer when he was 3 so races like the Kentucky Derby werent in his vocabulary. But has he ever taken off these last 2 years? Wow, what a treat to watch and his fans are hoping the best is yet to come!

I'd give the slight edge to Lava Man, despite Funny Cide winning 2 legs of the Triple Crown. You can make the case that Empire Maker wasnt 100% in that Derby and that the Cliffs Edge broke down in a very weak rendition of the 2004 Jockey Club.

#3 09-27-2006, 02:59 PM

To be fair: Lava Man has 5 Grade 1 wins, not 6: 2 HGC's, 1 PC, 1 SA 'Cap, 1 Whittingham, a Grade 2 in the Californian, and 2 restricted wins: $1 M Sunshine Millions Classic and Khaled Stakes (T-NCR).

cakes44 · #4 09-27-2006, 03:03 PM

I'd put Perfect Drift ahead of Funny Cide.

slotdirt · #5 09-27-2006, 03:03 PM

I'd go with Perfect Drift.

#6 09-27-2006, 03:05 PM

You'd put a one-time Grade 1 winner ahead of a dual classic winner and a 5 time Grade 1 winner?

1st_Saturday_in_May · #7 09-27-2006, 03:24 PM

I think that Lava Man is far more talented on his best day, but history will always remember Funny Cide first - him being the 'gutsy NY-bred gelding' that won the Derby. If Lava Man were to win the Classic, however, things would change...

somerfrost · #8 09-27-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FairPlay

To be fair: Lava Man has 5 Grade 1 wins, not 6: 2 HGC's, 1 PC, 1 SA 'Cap, 1 Whittingham, a Grade 2 in the Californian, and 2 restricted wins: $1 M Sunshine Millions Classic and Khaled Stakes (T-NCR).

You are correct, for some reason, I thought the Californian was a grade one but it isn't...my bad!