"What I Will Do If ObamaCare Passes"

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

What's in the Senate bill, Timmi, is what is there. It's been out there in public since December to read. No secrets. No "government takeover" of healthcare. No "public option". No "single payer". No "grandma death panels". No "funding for abortion". The reconciliation adjustments are 11 pages. That's what's in there.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...bHRLAD9EG84VO0

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...bHRLAD9EG84VO0

I'll stick with the CBO, looking at the entirety of it, thanks

I doubt whatever is passed will survive intact every year. Like Medicare, like the Civil Rights Act, amendments will be made.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'll stick with the CBO, looking at the entirety of it, thanks

I doubt whatever is passed will survive intact every year. Like Medicare, like the Civil Rights Act, amendments will be made.

Wow....at least you admit it now

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Wow....at least you admit it now

Admit what? The amendments? That will be movements towards single payer.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Admit what? The amendments? That will be movements towards single payer.

you're admitting to the clear fact that legislation and ammendments will be made. the dems are in a position to steamroll it all. Your 2 examples are a wee bit out of the norm,don't ya think! Obviously they'd have ammendments

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

you're admitting to the clear fact that legislation and ammendments will be made. the dems are in a position to steamroll it all. Your 2 examples are a wee bit out of the norm,don't ya think! Obviously they'd have ammendments

Of course amendments will be made. I've never said differently. I"m not talking this week, I'm talking in the future. This is just the start of massive reform of a currently completely unregulated private system that consists of 1/6 of our economy. It's not gonna be perfect from the get go.

And my two examples, Medicare and Civil Rights, were also very important legislation that made fundamental important changes, of course they, too, had many amendments down the years. Medicare has had quite a few, and the initial legislation for both Medicare and Civil Rights was very basic and simple. So that's why I used those two examples. They are very similar to health reform.

I've never "denied" that health reform would be immune from future amendments 1, 5, 20 years from now, so I don't know why you would say, "at least you admit it now"

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Of course amendments will be made. I've never said differently. I"m not talking this week, I'm talking in the future. This is just the start of massive reform of a currently completely unregulated private system that consists of 1/6 of our economy. It's not gonna be perfect from the get go.

And my two examples, Medicare and Civil Rights, were also very important legislation that made fundamental important changes, of course they, too, had many amendments down the years. Medicare has had quite a few, and the initial legislation for both Medicare and Civil Rights was very basic and simple. So that's why I used those two examples. They are very similar to health reform.

I've never "denied" that health reform would be immune from future amendments 1, 5, 20 years from now, so I don't know why you would say, "at least you admit it now"

you implied/stated that the Dems bill had been set in stone for months, and you seem to think that the good-hearted Dems will be magnanimus in their legislative attempts.