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Old 03-14-2010, 04:28 PM
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They dont run too many graded stakes races at canterbury, thistle and Presque isle
How could Assmussen not want to take shot at a 250k earn.. I get Jess not needing the money but Ass is not a billionaire
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:28 PM
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The problem is that for some reason not losing trumps proving yourself against the best competition. With very few exceptions (Personal Ensign) the best horses of modern times lost. It really isnt that big of a deal.

that's very true. i think some on here forget just how seldom a horse goes without losing. christ, i'd hate to see how some on here would have treated citation or dr fager!
but, i do think that jack/ass realize they were pushing rachel too quickly-they're backing off and regrouping. when she's ready, she'll run. then we'll see.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:29 PM
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I wonder how many will convert to the good side due to this


My guess for the over/under is 0.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:38 PM
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My guess for the over/under is 0.
We've had our difference in views but you and I know if Zenyatta pulled out, this pro RA forum would be all over it. Really there is no excuse barring her being injuried to skip this race off a 3/4 length loss to a gr.2 winning mare in a prep race that was designed to give her fitness. The race was moved 1 week back to 1 month in between races to accomodate her, yet this still isn't enough to lure the HOY to race for 5 million dollars. Barring bending over I don't know what else can be done, you may find this very excusable but I am sure there are a few Rachel supporters that are getting tiresome of this act. If they are well good on them for having their eyes finally opened.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:54 PM
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We've had our difference in views but you and I know if Zenyatta pulled out, this pro RA forum would be all over it. Really there is no excuse barring her being injuried to skip this race off a 3/4 length loss to a gr.2 winning mare in a prep race that was designed to give her fitness. The race was moved 1 week back to 1 month in between races to accomodate her, yet this still isn't enough to lure the HOY to race for 5 million dollars. Barring bending over I don't know what else can be done, you may find this very excusable but I am sure there are a few Rachel supporters that are getting tiresome of this act. If they are well good on them for having their eyes finally opened.
Would I, though? That's what matters when you're responding to me.

Whatever they want to do with their horse is good enough "excuse" for me, which has basically been my stance the entire time.

Count me still "on the bad side." Though I'm with miraja that I wish they would've waited to see how she was coming out of it before saying that. Knowing them, it's not even official yet.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:58 PM
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excellent point man. Sheriff's cost them big time. Rachel wins there is no excuse, they go to the Apple Blossum and get part of $5 mil. Now it's hardly a race of note.

Wow … didn't realize Shirreffs owned Zardana…
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:04 PM
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How could Assmussen not want to take shot at a 250k earn.. I get Jess not needing the money but Ass is not a billionaire
He doesnt call the shots, that much has been pretty obvious since the day JJ bought her.
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:06 PM
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Wow … didn't realize Shirreffs owned Zardana…
He doesn't own Zardana and he sure isn't the one that cost anybody to lose anything. The owner od the horse ultimately calls the shots and it aint him.
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:08 PM
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that's very true. i think some on here forget just how seldom a horse goes without losing. christ, i'd hate to see how some on here would have treated citation or dr fager!
but, i do think that jack/ass realize they were pushing rachel too quickly-they're backing off and regrouping. when she's ready, she'll run. then we'll see.
The problem with this theory is that her race should help get her ready to run next month, not hamper it. Of course this is taking the situation at face value.
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:09 PM
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The problem with this theory is that her race should help get her ready to run next month, not hamper it. Of course this is taking the situation at face value.
Exactly. That's the part I don't get. They should have at least waited a week to see how she's doing.
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:14 PM
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Exactly. That's the part I don't get. They should have at least waited a week to see how she's doing.
or maybe a few days at least. Where's Paul Harvey when you need him?
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:19 PM
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I think its great they didn't wait around to make this announcement. Good for them! They took a shot in the prep to see how she looked and it wasn't to their liking. That being the case- why run?

Hopefully, Rachel will be back sometime later in the spring or summer and we can see this go down.

Wouldn't you be pissed if they waited around for another week or two before making the announcement?
Me too.
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:26 PM
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He doesn't own Zardana and he sure isn't the one that cost anybody to lose anything. The owner od the horse ultimately calls the shots and it aint him.
Lol … was being sarcastic

Common knowledge that Zetcher wanted little z to crash RA's powderpuff-fest.



And quite a crash it was.
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:44 PM
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The Apple Blossom could still be Zardana Vs. Zenyatta. At least that would be more entertaining than the Pacquio vs Clottey fight last night.
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:50 PM
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Lol … was being sarcastic

Common knowledge that Zetcher wanted little z to crash RA's powderpuff-fest.



And quite a crash it was.

ok, Zetcher cost all parties a chance at $5 mil

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I'd have to imagine that Zenyatta's not going to Oaklawn on April 9th either, right? If they're going to take her out of her comfort zone, I'd think it would be for something more worthwhile than running against Careless Jewel or some other slob.
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:52 PM
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I'd have to imagine that Zenyatta's not going to Oaklawn on April 9th either, right? If they're going to take her out of her comfort zone, I'd think it would be for something more worthwhile than running against Careless Jewel or some other slob.
oh, haven't you heard - her best race was at Oaklawn
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:02 PM
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The problem with this theory is that her race should help get her ready to run next month, not hamper it. Of course this is taking the situation at face value.

yeah, it should. i'm just trying to figure out what they're thinking...which is useless really.
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:06 PM
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what do you mean? Haven't you heard of Zenyatta?!?
shes not invincible either, shes just better than rachel
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:54 PM
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This could have been billed as the battle of the big dogs, plus the new shooter to spice things up.

BANG!

Hear that? Racing shoots itself in the foot, yet again.
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