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Old 03-14-2010, 03:37 PM
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another conspiracy...


seriously, this illustrates why so often they can't get top horses together. everything has to be exactly perfect, or someone backs out. it's a shame they couldn't meet last year, when both were doing so well. jack/ass tried to rush rachel back, and she gets defeated. so now she's tarnished and not going to the apple blossom, rather then them telling charles cella that it wasn't in the cards. here's hoping she gets back to where she was last year, and that a confrontation can still occur.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:47 PM
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another conspiracy...


seriously, this illustrates why so often they can't get top horses together. everything has to be exactly perfect, or someone backs out. it's a shame they couldn't meet last year, when both were doing so well. jack/ass tried to rush rachel back, and she gets defeated. so now she's tarnished and not going to the apple blossom, rather then them telling charles cella that it wasn't in the cards. here's hoping she gets back to where she was last year, and that a confrontation can still occur.
The problem is that for some reason not losing trumps proving yourself against the best competition. With very few exceptions (Personal Ensign) the best horses of modern times lost. It really isnt that big of a deal.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:52 PM
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The problem is that for some reason not losing trumps proving yourself against the best competition. With very few exceptions (Personal Ensign) the best horses of modern times lost. It really isnt that big of a deal.
Exactly right.
What is the big deal about her getting beat yesterday? It isn't like she ran horribly. I admit I don't know squat about training a horse, but I didn't see a thing from that race yesterday that made me think she shouldn't run at OP.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:58 PM
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I, for one, am shocked.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:58 PM
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I should have sold my four seats on the finish line on Stub Hub when I had the chanch. From $600 each back down to face value.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:59 PM
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I wonder how many people jumped the gun and bought scalped tickets?
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:02 PM
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This one fizzled out quickly. This kind of **** happens when a 3rd stringer beats your 'champion'. At least the connections have a realistic gauge on things. Which is more than can be said for RA's many supporters.

If only Borel lets her go earlier.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:01 PM
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Exactly right.
What is the big deal about her getting beat yesterday? It isn't like she ran horribly. I admit I don't know squat about training a horse, but I didn't see a thing from that race yesterday that made me think she shouldn't run at OP.
The problem seems to be they have unrealistically overrated the filly. She is a very good horse with a couple of truly fantastic accomplishments. However she is not invincible, no horse is
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:04 PM
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The problem seems to be they have unrealistically overrated the filly. She is a very good horse with a couple of truly fantastic accomplishments. However she is not invincible, no horse is

what do you mean? Haven't you heard of Zenyatta?!?
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:09 PM
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what do you mean? Haven't you heard of Zenyatta?!?
Zenyatta has beat up on cupcakes in 90% of her starts. She is far from a lock taking on males (even the crappy ones that masquerade as grade 1 horses these days) on dirt.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:13 PM
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Zenyatta has beat up on cupcakes in 90% of her starts. She is far from a lock taking on males (even the crappy ones that masquerade as grade 1 horses these days) on dirt.
3 day old cupcakes
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:14 PM
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If Rachel doesn't show in the AB, you have to wonder if the Moss' are thrilled about Sheriff's decision to send Zardana against RA yesterday, even second place in the AB would have been worth a lot more than a win is worth now. It is not everyday you get to run for $5 million!
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:15 PM
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Zenyatta has beat up on cupcakes in 90% of her starts. She is far from a lock taking on males (even the crappy ones that masquerade as grade 1 horses these days) on dirt.

I guess I should have added one of these:
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:06 PM
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what do you mean? Haven't you heard of Zenyatta?!?
shes not invincible either, shes just better than rachel
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:54 PM
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This could have been billed as the battle of the big dogs, plus the new shooter to spice things up.

BANG!

Hear that? Racing shoots itself in the foot, yet again.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:17 PM
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The problem seems to be they have unrealistically overrated the filly. She is a very good horse with a couple of truly fantastic accomplishments. However she is not invincible, no horse is
True enough . It's tough out on the track. The competition is fierce . That's why they run the race . RA did not embarrass herself .
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:18 PM
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True enough . It's tough out on the track. The competition is fierce . That's why they run the race . RA did not embarrass herself .
Exactly. Somebody forgot to tell the connections that
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:19 PM
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The problem seems to be they have unrealistically overrated the filly. She is a very good horse with a couple of truly fantastic accomplishments. However she is not invincible, no horse is
They also have a trainer that isn't exactly Frankel off the layoff.. Note to Jess you want Rachel back give Hal a call.. lol

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Old 03-14-2010, 04:03 PM
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Couldn't it be that RA just won't really be ready for that race? She didn't appear to be ready yesterday.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:17 PM
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Couldn't it be that RA just won't really be ready for that race?
Then how will she ever get "ready?" If they think the filly was short for the race yesterday, why don't they use it as a foundation, get plenty of work in her over the next few weeks, and run her?
I think the whole idea that trainers can get horses primed to peak for a particular race is a bit overrated. However, I guess I don't understand the point of a "prep" race if a less than stellar performance in that race derails the horse from the actual targeted race. Isn't the point supposedly to help them get ready for the targeted race. How did yesterday not accomplish that for RA?
It isn't like she ran a complete clunker yesterday. She ran fine. What in the world makes the connections think she isn't capable of reaching her top form in 4 weeks?
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