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Old 03-13-2010, 07:25 PM
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I wonder who rides Dublin next
Theroit would be fine IMO. He did good at Toga and did well in some big spots on Blame. Ramon would fit, hes patient and thats what Dublin needs, 1 late explosive run.
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:26 PM
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The race may have been a little harder than Baffert wanted considering the trip. Nice call by Baffert with the move to dirt. I wonder where he goes next: SA Derby, Bluegrass, Wood, or Arkansas Derby?

i'd stay right here in arkansas. it's been good to baffert, and the horse certainly seemed to handle it well here.
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Theroit would be fine IMO. He did good at Toga and did well in some big spots on Blame. Ramon would fit, hes patient and thats what Dublin needs, 1 late explosive run.
Hoping Dominguez will take the call on him again after Super Saver's dud today...Dominguez would fit him like a glove now that Dublin is over the throat surgery. Plus, Ramon looks to save ground as good as anyone, which apparently Thompson and Nakatani didn't realize can help. Dublin was easily 2nd best in the Rebel. Noble's Promise got the absolute perfect trip of perfect trips and still couldn't get it done. McPeek needs to keep him at a mile, as he's distance challenged. Anything more than a Mile and Noble's Promise is going to be stretching his limits.
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:31 PM
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Hoping Dominguez will take the call on him again after Super Saver's dud today...Dominguez would fit him like a glove now that Dublin is over the throat surgery. Plus, Ramon looks to save ground as good as anyone, which apparently Thompson and Nakatani didn't realize can help. Dublin was easily 2nd best in the Rebel. Noble's Promise got the absolute perfect trip of perfect trips and still couldn't get it done. McPeek needs to keep him at a mile, as he's distance challenged. Anything more than a Mile and Noble's Promise is going to be stretching his limits.

I agree with everything....
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How was Super Saver a dud today?
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:42 PM
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I don't ordinarily like being critical of riders, but Nakatani rode Dublin like he was the second-coming of Secretariat.......

And it is very rare that horses do what Odyseus did today !!!!!!
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:58 PM
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How was Super Saver a dud today?
You were impressed with that effort? He might get 10th in the Derby with that effort. There appears to be a ton of speed that will surely compromise him that is lining up for the Derby with Rule, Super Saver, Sidney's Candy, all of whom are one-dimensional speedy front runners.
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:58 PM
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How was Super Saver a dud today?
I thought he was pretty bad.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:01 PM
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Beat by a half length off a 4 month lay-off?
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:01 PM
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Hoping Dominguez will take the call on him again after Super Saver's dud today
Super Saver only lost by a half length after a long layoff -- not what I would call a dud. Plus the horse won a Grade 2 race at Churchill by 5 lengths.
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:34 PM
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I was impressed. Especially if he was short?
As for Dublin, WTF IS C. NAK DOING? TERRIBLE, PREMATURE SHITBOX RIDE.
.......u got that right.
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:37 PM
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Lost in all of this talk is the Honeybee win by No Such Word, which was pretty nice, albeit with a good trip. She is a horse who has actually gotten better going two turns and is worthy of consideration down the road considering how seemingly average the 3YO fillies are.

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Old 03-14-2010, 08:44 AM
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Beat by a half length off a 4 month lay-off?
The Tampa Bay Derby was about as ugly a race as you could see. When four horses are in a blanket finish like this, it's usually a sign of a bad race.

Odysseus was dead on the turn and won the race when it completely fell apart in front of him. The fourth place finisher Gleam of Hope was beaten a length. His prior top Beyer on dirt was a 73. Super Saver beat him 16 lengths in the Kentucky Jockey Club.
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:15 AM
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Terrible ride indeed. Should have won this race
Kind of thing happens all the time when a top "minor" leaguer like Theriot (who did nothing wrong with Dublin) gets preplaces by a guy who is supposedly A team. This is why I was happy that Servis stuck with Elliott and Titchey with Rose during their TC campaigns.
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:19 AM
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Hoping Dominguez will take the call on him again after Super Saver's dud today...Dominguez would fit him like a glove now that Dublin is over the throat surgery. Plus, Ramon looks to save ground as good as anyone, which apparently Thompson and Nakatani didn't realize can help. Dublin was easily 2nd best in the Rebel. Noble's Promise got the absolute perfect trip of perfect trips and still couldn't get it done. McPeek needs to keep him at a mile, as he's distance challenged. Anything more than a Mile and Noble's Promise is going to be stretching his limits.
He's run at least 4 very good races against proven runners at 1 1/16, though I agree he's bred for 7f. Since many feel that LAL ran the "race of the weekend" to just beat him, I'd say he was very good in defeat. NP just keeps running good race after good race.
As for Ramon, I'd love to see him on Dublin. CNak's ride was dreadful.
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Lost in all of this talk is the Honeybee win by No Such Word, which was pretty nice, albeit with a good trip. She is a horse who has actually gotten better going two turns and is worthy of consideration down the road considering how seemingly average the 3YO fillies are.

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Lost too is that Beautician was stymied at the top of the stretch and lost all momentum. If she smoothly finds a seam off the turn, she gets first run and Larry's... I mean Cindy's.. filly has to catch her instead of the other way around. I was actually pleased with the result because No Such Word certainly boosted the P4 payoff considerably.
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Old 03-14-2010, 11:43 AM
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Lost too is that Beautician was stymied at the top of the stretch and lost all momentum. If she smoothly finds a seam off the turn, she gets first run and Larry's... I mean Cindy's.. filly has to catch her instead of the other way around. I was actually pleased with the result because No Such Word certainly boosted the P4 payoff considerably.
Beautician and Noble's Promise ran much better than I thought. I was certain they had McPeeked.

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I want Ntamm to comment on this... He likes Dublin and liked the jock switch, I did to, but this was HORRIBLE.
Just saw the race and yeah ,it was a pretty brutal ride. But look at the bright side Joseph. Next time he runs (guessing the Ark Derby) you would think he will be a better price than 7/5.
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Kind of thing happens all the time when a top "minor" leaguer like Theriot (who did nothing wrong with Dublin) gets preplaces by a guy who is supposedly A team. This is why I was happy that Servis stuck with Elliott and Titchey with Rose during their TC campaigns.
Like when Ritchey replaced Rose with Johnny V for the Rebel?
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Old 03-14-2010, 01:40 PM
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Nakatani's ride wasn't pretty, but I see worse rides all the time. If Dublin was that good, he could have overcome it.
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