Zenyatta

pointman · #1 03-13-2010, 07:07 PM

Zenyatta really is something on plastic.

10 pnt move up · #2 03-13-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Zenyatta really is something on plastic.

Do you dont think she can translate it on the Oaklawn surface?

RockHardTen1985 · #3 03-13-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Do you dont think she can translate it on the Oaklawn surface?

Its getting so old... I hate synthetics, but they are not going anywhere... People just need to stop, racing is racing and Z is the goods on either surface.

RockHardTen1985 · #4 03-13-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Zenyatta really is something on plastic.

This is so old... Her Apple Blossom win WAS AWESOME AND really easy. No reasson to think she would not improve right now, AGAIN on dirt.

GPK · #5 03-13-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

This is so old... Her Apple Blossom win WAS AWESOME AND really easy. No reasson to think she would not improve right now, AGAIN on dirt.

Hey genious, she is a 5 yo Mare. She's not gonna improve anymore. Unless switched to Wolfson of course.

Danzig · #6 03-13-2010, 07:28 PM

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Hey genious, she is a 5 yo Mare. She's not gonna improve anymore. Unless switched to Wolfson of course.

actually, i think she's six now.

honestly tho--if i were the mosses, i wouldn't travel. keep her home and get the win streak record. not saying she'd lose travelling....but why mess with something when it's not broken? she hasn't shipped out of cali in a year, shipped and raced in two....
i have to wonder now how it's going to unfold. if jackson backs out, citing lack of readiness, zenyatta won't come anyway because the big purse goes away.

Pedigree Ann · #7 03-13-2010, 07:57 PM

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actually, i think she's six now.

honestly tho--if i were the mosses, i wouldn't travel. keep her home and get the win streak record.

The all-time win streak is 56 races, the feat of the Puerto Rican star Camarero in the 1950s. The top-international-class-racehorse record belongs to the legendary unbeaten Hungarian mare Kincsem with 54. Any other 'record' is an artificial construct, made by limiting by time (21st Century?) or location (US and Canada? The Caribbean Islands are usually counted as part of North America.) I doubt that Zenyatta's people are going campaign her to reach either of these two records.

Cannon Shell · #8 03-13-2010, 08:14 PM

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The all-time win streak is 56 races, the feat of the Puerto Rican star Camarero in the 1950s. The top-international-class-racehorse record belongs to the legendary unbeaten Hungarian mare Kincsem with 54. Any other 'record' is an artificial construct, made by limiting by time (21st Century?) or location (US and Canada? The Caribbean Islands are usually counted as part of North America.) I doubt that Zenyatta's people are going campaign her to reach either of these two records.

Those "records" are not relevant. Puerto Rican racing in the 50's and Hungarian racing in the 1870's have no relation to modern racing. It is like insisting that the All time, single season HR king is Joe Bauman for his 72 hr season in 1954 for the class C Roswell of the Longhorn league.

Danzig · #9 03-13-2010, 08:45 PM

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The all-time win streak is 56 races, the feat of the Puerto Rican star Camarero in the 1950s. The top-international-class-racehorse record belongs to the legendary unbeaten Hungarian mare Kincsem with 54. Any other 'record' is an artificial construct, made by limiting by time (21st Century?) or location (US and Canada? The Caribbean Islands are usually counted as part of North America.) I doubt that Zenyatta's people are going campaign her to reach either of these two records.

i'm talking about the record pepper's pride currently holds (sorry, miraja!) but you knew that. and yes, i think everyone is well aware of kincsem and her 54wins, irrelevant as it is.

miraja2 · #10 03-15-2010, 03:42 PM

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i'm talking about the record pepper's pride currently holds (sorry, miraja!)

I just saw this now.
How dare you bring up She Who Must Not Be Named!?!?

ArlJim78 · #11 03-13-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Zenyatta really is something on plastic.

her one race at Oaklawn was her largest margin of victory.

RockHardTen1985 · #12 03-13-2010, 07:12 PM

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her one race at Oaklawn was her largest margin of victory.

I just watched the replay of it, she totally EXPLODES IN THAT RACE.

ArlJim78 · #13 03-13-2010, 07:15 PM

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I just watched the replay of it, she totally EXPLODES IN THAT RACE.

yeah I know, I don't understand why people are so convinced she needs synthetic to win and would be a hapless also ran on dirt.

Payson Dave · #14 03-13-2010, 07:17 PM

Is there anyone who does not think they are both pretty special??.... as to who is better....until they actually face each other on dirt it's all just conjecture 'n bullshit proclaiming who's the better one.

RockHardTen1985 · #15 03-13-2010, 07:22 PM

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Is there anyone who does not think they are both pretty special??.... as to who is better....until they actually face each other on dirt it's all just conjecture 'n bullshit proclaiming who's the better one.

They are both great, amazing horses, but Z is better.

Danzig · #16 03-13-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

They are both great, amazing horses, but Z is better.

an opinion, but certainly not a fact as for the moment you can't prove it. you can give reasons til the cows come home for having that opinion....but that doesn't mean you proved it.

Payson Dave · #17 03-13-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

They are both great, amazing horses, but Z is better.

opinions are like ......

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in this game you make money when your opinion is correct and you lose when it is not.... I seem to recall your opinion being wrong at least as much as anyone elses

pointman · #18 03-13-2010, 07:32 PM

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opinions are like ......

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in this game you make money when your opinion is correct and you lose when it is not.... I seem to recall your opinion being wrong at least as much as anyone elses

He's gearing up to put $1,000 to win on Z in the Apple Blossem and if she wins he will no doubt bust out his pom poms and tell us he is the best handicapper in the world!

the_fat_man · #19 03-13-2010, 07:41 PM

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He's gearing up to put $1,000 to win on Z in the Apple Blossem and if she wins he will no doubt bust out his pom poms and tell us he is the best handicapper in the world!

How is this different from making sure to always check a certain someone's NYRA picks before putting down YOUR money? At least he basically has his OWN opinion.

Enjoy the day's events.

Danzig · #20 03-13-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Is there anyone who does not think they are both pretty special??.... as to who is better....until they actually face each other on dirt it's all just conjecture 'n bullshit proclaiming who's the better one.

sadly, there are some who think one or the other isn't special, when in fact both are.

i didn't see either race. i'll have to go to twinspires to see the replays. we didn't get home in time from quiz bowl regionals (our team won, yay! my son was mvp-a bit of bragging is warranted i think!)....anyway, i hope they're both as close to 100% in a few weeks time as possible, and that they are still able to have the race.