Borel to ride Jackson Bend in Wood

Betsy · #1 03-08-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The move can be questioned as being too conservative.

He won his 2nd career start on Feb 27th.

Congaree won his 2nd career start on Feb 28th in a rained off the turf maiden race.

Big Brown won his 2nd career start on March 6th in a rained off the turf N1X alw race.

Name a horse in recent memory who was better in defeat than Congaree was in the KY Derby?

Name a horse who was better in victory than Big Brown? - keep in mind he broke from post 20 and was hung up both turns and still won in surpisingly good time.

Bernardini broke his maiden March 4th in career start #2. He was conservatively pointed to the Preakness.

Which race do you think they should be aiming Miner's Reserve for? The Barbaro stakes on the Preakness undercard?

Ok, now that's fair. As I said, I tend to be very conservative... a part of me is pretty excited, I admit. I'm just crossing my fingers that he stays healthy.

The Indomitable DrugS · #2 03-08-2010, 08:31 PM

You're the John Ward of message board posters.

Indian Charlie · #3 03-09-2010, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You're the John Ward of message board posters.

That's a bit harsh.

At least she knows how to type and post.

Monarchos1 · #4 03-09-2010, 12:42 AM

Miner's Reserve is owned by Lapenta, who campaigned The Cliff's Edge. He wants a runner in the renamed The Cliff's Edge Derby Trial, which he is sponsoring on behalf of his stallion. As for Fly Down, there's not snowball's chance in hell that he runs in both the Louisiana and Arkansas Derbies. Unless the owner has some agenda involving New Orleans, I imagine we'll see him at Oaklawn since his last race was a tough one on the colt.

Danzig · #5 03-09-2010, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1

Miner's Reserve is owned by Lapenta, who campaigned The Cliff's Edge. He wants a runner in the renamed The Cliff's Edge Derby Trial, which he is sponsoring on behalf of his stallion. As for Fly Down, there's not snowball's chance in hell that he runs in both the Louisiana and Arkansas Derbies. Unless the owner has some agenda involving New Orleans, I imagine we'll see him at Oaklawn since his last race was a tough one on the colt.

excellent point. hell, he's putting up the extra purse money, he may as well try to put it back in his own pocket.

and true about the la and ark derbies, i don't see anyone attempting both and then ky.

Betsy · #6 03-09-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1

Miner's Reserve is owned by Lapenta, who campaigned The Cliff's Edge. He wants a runner in the renamed The Cliff's Edge Derby Trial, which he is sponsoring on behalf of his stallion. As for Fly Down, there's not snowball's chance in hell that he runs in both the Louisiana and Arkansas Derbies. Unless the owner has some agenda involving New Orleans, I imagine we'll see him at Oaklawn since his last race was a tough one on the colt.

I now wish LaPenta didn't own Miner's Reserve from what I hear of him. I'm glad Fly Down is owned by someone else. I thought Nick said after his allowance win that he could be his Belmont horse (or he hinted at it). If so, may as well take their time with him...

Monarchos1 · #7 03-09-2010, 10:09 AM

I don't know what you are insinuating with LaPenta. He's probably not the easiest owner for a trainer to deal with, but I don't recall his ever insisting that horses be pushed too hard or placed unrealistically. Or sent to the desert to try an unorthodox path. And he's certainly not a sleezy type like some prior Derby winners.

freddymo · #8 03-09-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I now wish LaPenta didn't own Miner's Reserve from what I hear of him. I'm glad Fly Down is owned by someone else. I thought Nick said after his allowance win that he could be his Belmont horse (or he hinted at it). If so, may as well take their time with him...

Seems to me like Lapenta and Zito have been a great team.. I don't know either but it seems to be quite successful. They have been together a while and I would assume respect each other?

Sightseek · #9 03-09-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I now wish LaPenta didn't own Miner's Reserve from what I hear of him. I'm glad Fly Down is owned by someone else. I thought Nick said after his allowance win that he could be his Belmont horse (or he hinted at it). If so, may as well take their time with him...

From what you hear about him? Please - do tell!

Betsy · #10 03-09-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

From what you hear about him? Please - do tell!

A few people on Thoroughbred Champions were talking about how La Penta always pushes his horses and used DaTara as an example (for instance, well after he'd proved he wasn't up to the task, LaPenta/Zito put him in spots he didn't belong). If they are wrong, then I apologize for making such comments. For all I know, those posters could have been people with a grudge for some unknown reason.

Betsy · #11 03-09-2010, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That's a bit harsh.

At least she knows how to type and post.

I guess I was insulted, lol. I have no idea what I did to him to deserve that, but oh well...

Indian Charlie · #12 03-09-2010, 12:52 PM

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I guess I was insulted, lol. I have no idea what I did to him to deserve that, but oh well...

I wasn't insulting you at all.

I was denigrating the trainer you were being compared to.

Betsy · #13 03-09-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I wasn't insulting you at all.

I was denigrating the trainer you were being compared to.

I'm sorry, I know you weren't. For some reason, Indomitable Drug was.

Gaining Ground · #14 03-09-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I'm sorry, I know you weren't. For some reason, Indomitable Drug was.

i didnt really read it as an insult. you said you were very conservative and he compared you to john ward, who is also conservative with running his horses.