Will Less Stud Income Help Keep Horses Racing

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Chuck if you win the Travers or Derby and have a strong pedigree you are going to retire your colt..Especially if the owner is Smarty Jones like as suppose to a Ned Evans.. IF you own the the FoY winner and win the Florida Derby and Kentucky Derby you aren't going to be racing at 4 PERIOD.. Quality Road is way to special a prospect who has done too little for a man of such means to retire..

No Freddy that simply is conjecture. Look at listed stud fees. Remember those are "listed". Everyone is looking for a deal. EVERYONE! Breeders dont want to pay until the baby sells, people want 1/2 price or foal shares, etc. No one outside of Sheik Mo is willing or able to play at the level.

The only signifigant horse to retire to stud last year early was Zensational. I am not including Pioneer of the Nile because he bowed and needed to be retired regardless.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/sta...f4=KY&sf7=2010


The stud farms are feeling a lot of heat. The market is sh it, banks are turning away, Sheik Mo has big trouble at home, The Irish guys are getting hammered at home as well. People arent paying their upkeep on mares or thier stud fees. Not only has the economic issues made things tough, a market correction was probably coming anyway as the value of bloodstock was way too high in relation to how much could be made.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No Freddy that simply is conjecture. Look at listed stud fees. Remember those are "listed". Everyone is looking for a deal. EVERYONE! Breeders dont want to pay until the baby sells, people want 1/2 price or foal shares, etc. No one outside of Sheik Mo is willing or able to play at the level.

The only signifigant horse to retire to stud last year early was Zensational. I am not including Pioneer of the Nile because he bowed and needed to be retired regardless.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/sta...f4=KY&sf7=2010


The stud farms are feeling a lot of heat. The market is sh it, banks are turning away, Sheik Mo has big trouble at home, The Irish guys are getting hammered at home as well. People arent paying their upkeep on mares or thier stud fees. Not only has the economic issues made things tough, a market correction was probably coming anyway as the value of bloodstock was way too high in relation to how much could be made.

I here you they offered Repent at 3k to me the day after Sweet Repent ran a 109 BSF. The horse has been a solid producer and they are still dealing.. YET, if you have well bred colt that runs his ass off in significant G1 races you are going to get more money day 1 then if you raced and succeeded for years.. Chuck the Met is 500k this year down from whart 750 at its peak?