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Old 03-06-2010, 11:07 PM
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I'm still not convinced this contest is kosher. Everything has scored for me OK, but that's not the issue. The leader currently has 10,672 points- which sounded awfully high to me given that a fair number of horses aren't even available for selection (for example, the top two finishers in the Kilroe.) I looked at the stakes today to determine the maximum available points to date (assuming that allowance/claiming results are really irrelevant given the point structure):

Big Cap- G1
misremembered 2500
jeranimo 1000

SA Oaks- G1
crisp 2500
blind luck 1500
cozie rosie 500

Sham- G3
alphies 500
setsuko 400
the program 300

Palm Beach- G3
paddy 500
dean's 400
asphalt 200
bim bam 100

Herecomesthebride- G3
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Gotham- G3
awesome act 500
nacho friend 300
turf melody 200
shrimp dancer 100

Toboggan- G3
custom for carlos 400

Azeri- G3
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Razorback- G3
gone astray 300

Cappy
golden ghost 225

Pasadena
mmfm 375
macias 300
alfarabi 225
runaway bandido 75

gentilly
heavenville 300

So given these results, the MAXIMUM point value for 12 horses today would have been 10,575-
Misremembered 2500
Crisp 2500
Blind Luck 1500
Jeranimo 1000
Alphies 500
Awesome Act 500
Cozie Rosie 500
Paddy O' 500
Setsuko 400
Dean's Kitten 400
Custom for Carlos 400
Make Music for Me 375

In essence, he would have had to use ALL of his horses today, and not only that but select the absolute best possible outcome (or very close to it, given the maximum jockey points to date is about 300.) It seems statistically unlikely that someone would (a) actually use all of their horses on the first day, and (b) have the correct outcome with it.
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Old 03-06-2010, 11:26 PM
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Not only that .... but Crisp was added to a stable right after her Gr 1 win .. yet no other horse on page #1 of the most commonly selected horses saw a +1 bump.

If you remember that a new stable must add 18 horses ...That is as shady as hell. Even if someone added Crisp after her win .. don't they have to take 17 other horses with her?
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Old 03-06-2010, 11:37 PM
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Not only that .... but Crisp was added to a stable right after her Gr 1 win .. yet no other horse on page #1 of the most commonly selected horses saw a +1 bump.

If you remember that a new stable must add 18 horses ...That is as shady as hell. Even if someone added Crisp after her win .. don't they have to take 17 other horses with her?
You saw this for sure? That doesn't add any confidence. Email them that and let them know.

I was very happy with my three starters/results today (3rd with Blind Luck, 3rd with Battle of Hastings, and 1st with Misremembered, so in essence 3 of the top 4 possible point earners) but when I saw the leaderboard I was somewhat dismayed. I understand working out the bugs- but this seems really fishy.

How did you do?
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Old 03-06-2010, 11:43 PM
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You saw this for sure? That doesn't add any confidence. Email them that and let them know.
I'm not even going to bother with that lady they have answering the E-mails.

She's hopeless.
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Old 03-07-2010, 12:04 AM
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You saw this for sure?
I wish I would have done a screen capture of all the pages... but right before the start - I did one of Blind Luck, Crisp, and Cozi Rosie because I wanted to see if they would be added into any stables after the race was over.

This was going into the gate:



This was after the race was offical:



Blind Luck stayed at 680 after the race ... and to the best of my memory no other horse on the entire page one got bumped up +1.
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:32 AM
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The thing is, even if Phil and Drugs is right, which I'm not disputing, it would seem pretty stupid to create an entry like this via cheating, especially as there are still races left to be run.

They simply have to make stables public once the month starts.
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