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Old 03-05-2010, 10:03 AM
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I think since Dominguez can only ride one in each derby, and Pletcher can send out multiple horses in the race almost every year, Pletcher gets more criticism for his Derby record. For whatever reason, Ramon is not getting on the "big" horse in the TC and BC. Steve shows in Dominguez' BC runs, his horses outperform their odds. I just don't see how you can watch races and not see this guy's talent and appreciate how he goes about his business. Did you think John Elway sucked until he won a Super Bowl later in his career?

do you really believe that todd wanted to run all of those horses in the derby?

John Elway was a great player throughout his career, Dan Marino was better but he doesn't have 2 rings and that is a hole in his career resume

A-Rod is a great baseball player (maybe the best in the game over the last 10 yrs) , now he has a ring to go with it - he was hammered by the fans rightfully so because he didn't do it on the big days in the fall with either seattle or the yankees , this year he did it

Ramon is a very good rider , i keep saying that .....is todd not a very good trainer becuase he is 1 for 70 in the TC races , are all those training titles at the spa , belmont ,and elsewhere meaningless because he is 1 for 70 in TC races?
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:12 AM
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do you really believe that todd wanted to run all of those horses in the derby?
John Elway was a great player throughout his career, Dan Marino was better but he doesn't have 2 rings and that is a hole in his career resume

A-Rod is a great baseball player (maybe the best in the game over the last 10 yrs) , now he has a ring to go with it - he was hammered by the fans rightfully so because he didn't do it on the big days in the fall with either seattle or the yankees , this year he did it

Ramon is a very good rider , i keep saying that .....is todd not a very good trainer becuase he is 1 for 70 in the TC races , are all those training titles at the spa , belmont ,and elsewhere meaningless because he is 1 for 70 in TC races?
Do you believe that Ramon thought that Sam P had chance to win ? Maybe he just took the mount, because he wants to evetually ride first call for Pletcher. Maybe he realized that he was lucky enough just to have an opportunity to ride in the big race. Maybe he though he really had a shot. Whatever the reason, but you have to be kidding me wanting to hold that over his head and count the fact that he couldn't bring home 43-1 Sam P and that's one of the reasons he's not an elite rider.
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:16 AM
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Do you believe that Ramon thought that Sam P had chance to win ? Maybe he just took the mount, because he wants to evetually ride first call for Pletcher. Maybe he realized that he was lucky enough just to have an opportunity to ride in the big race. Maybe he though he really had a shot. Whatever the reason, but you have to be kidding me wanting to hold that over his head and count the fact that he couldn't bring home 43-1 Sam P and that's one of the reasons he's not an elite rider.
no

You understand that you are ranting about races that equate to about .0042% of his mounts?

matt be so kind and tell me what the % is for todd - tc/bc starters vs all horses that todd starts - isn't it going to be less than 5% as well?
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