5 GOP break with party on jobs bill, vote w/Dems

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

'Zig - you are mistaking the gold line for all motions being brought to be voted upon, aren't you? That's not what that is.

Here is another chart:

no, you said those were the filibusters. i can read. but i can also do math. it makes perfect sense that if there are a lot more motions, that the minority party will respond in kind. but you are only considering the number of filibusters being the highest ever, without looking at the red line, which is the highest ever as well. but, in other instances you look at the red and yellow lines, and can see the difference in motions vs filibusters. so, again, the last lines do not indicate it's the 'worst ever'. like i said, blocking more than half of motions would be worse than blocking less than half, right? regardless of total numbers, that would be worse-wouldn't it?

[Riot]

i can read. but i can also do math. it makes perfect sense that if there are a lot more motions, that the minority party will respond in kind.

Those are not "motions to vote on stuff", those are cloture motions (against filibuster).

Neither chart indicates the number of motions brought to the floor, which is what you are assuming and basing your percentages upon.

(and the charts are not duplicates)

I give up

[Riot]

but, in other instances you look at the red and yellow lines, and can see the difference in motions vs filibusters.

The second chart: The red and yellow lines are NOT "motions vs filibusters". The red line is votes on cloture, and the yellow line is where that vote prevailed, and cloture was invoked. The blue line is not the entire number of motions about everything brought to the floor to be voted upon, it is the number of times a cloture motion was filed to (nearly always) end a fillibuster.

There is nothing at all in the second chart that tells one how many motions (to vote on this and that) were brought to the floor.

Now I give up for sure <g>

[Danzig]

i was talking about the first chart-you wrote that the gold line was number of filibusters.

but i'm sure it's all just over my head anyway, and that you're exactly right that one party will cause the utter destruction of this country, while the other does everything possible to save us from ourselves.

i'm going to watch hockey.

[Riot]

and that you're exactly right that one party will cause the utter destruction of this country, while the other does everything possible to save us from ourselves.

Great exit, except too bad I don't think that.