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Old 09-26-2006, 02:00 PM
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So there have been 161 BC races and horses that prepped at SA won 31 of them or 19% ( though with a dead heat for Johar they sort of won 30 1/2 races ). There were 322 place and show positions available of which SA preppers took 63 spots or 19.5%. Plus 311 stated, 31 won ( or 10 % ) with another 20% filling out those same in the money spots.

Sounds like they underperformed as one of the three major curcuits ( with Kentucky and New York obviously being the other two ).
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:04 PM
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So there have been 161 BC races and horses that prepped at SA won 31 of them or 19% ( though with a dead heat for Johar they sort of won 30 1/2 races ). There were 322 place and show positions available of which SA preppers took 63 spots or 19.5%. Plus 311 stated, 31 won ( or 10 % ) with another 20% filling out those same in the money spots.

Sounds like they underperformed as one of the three major curcuits ( with Kentucky and New York obviously being the other two ).

numbers don't lie but you can lie with numbers.

you new yorkers just make up your own tales to tell don't ya.

the article says 38%, that would be a 5% better than expected
ITM percent if you only count three circuits. how convenient that you discount Illinois, Texas, and Florida.

that makes six circuits, and thus presses the Percntage to 38% vs. 16.66 which is 1/6.
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:09 PM
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I would like to see the numbers from Turfway, there was a time when alot of horses prepping for the BC in the Kentucky Cup would run big in the BC...

Silver Charm
Reraise
Caller One
Captain Steve
Point Given
Vindication
Cash Run
Spain
Cajun Beat

There's some others...
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:12 PM
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add Malibu Mint to Turfway, she just won again going 6. She will win The Sprint at a BIG number.....you heard it here first
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:14 PM
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numbers don't lie but you can lie with numbers.

you new yorkers just make up your own tales to tell don't ya.

IF YOU CANNOT RESPOND TO PEOPLE WITHOUT RANCOR, WITHOUT ANIMUS AND WITHOUT GLARING INVITATIONS FOR CONFLICT, THAN FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO POST...

The above was a totally unnecessary part of your response to BTW's questioning of Oak Tree's claims.. (Much as the WWII portion of a response to a post was yesterday)...

My toleration for this from a number of people is AT AN END...

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Old 09-26-2006, 02:55 PM
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Thanks for that Steve, It seems to me that some posters just look for conflict. Oracle and BTW seem to be targets no matter what they say. As an average fan with no racetrack connections I think its a great thing when these guys and some others share what they know. Thanks KP
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Old 09-26-2006, 03:09 PM
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how dare you chastise me like that in public.

delete me from your memebership base.

and take this message baord

AND STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE.

YOU AND YOUR COMTEMPTUOUS GROUP OF FOLLOWERS CAN GET IN LINE AND KISS MY ASS.
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Old 09-26-2006, 03:10 PM
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how dare you chastise me like that in public.

delete me from your memebership base.

and take this message baord

AND STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE.

YOU AND YOUR COMTEMPTUOUS GROUP OF FOLLOWERS CAN GET IN LINE AND KISS MY ASS.
Why do you want to fight with everyone?
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Old 09-26-2006, 03:12 PM
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Horses have done well coming out of West Coast preps. That's a fine angle. They've also done well coming from other preps. Its a puzzle each year. PAst performance is not indicative of future results.

I like West Coast racing even though I'm an east coaster, but small fields, wherever they are suck.
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Old 09-26-2006, 03:29 PM
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how dare you chastise me like that in public.

delete me from your memebership base.
Done...

As I said, I've had enough...
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Old 09-26-2006, 03:56 PM
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He isn't censoring, blocky just continues to say stupid stuff and it is worthless, if it was worthwhile, EVEN if Kasept disagreed, he wouldn't have touched it
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Old 09-26-2006, 03:59 PM
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while i don't condone censorship of any kind, i guess i'm glad i left this on while doing the dishes, i would hate to have had to hear of blocky's diatribe 2hand, oh well, time to go try and salvage some $ out of the cubs last homestand, i think i'm gonna get some packer stuff for the cheeseheads to buy tonite-have a good nite everybody!
Censorship in public discourse is one thing...

What we have here ISN'T "public" in that sense. It's a Forum on a PRIVATELY owned and administered website and I will determine what is fit for public view on a product that bears my name. Period. If anyone doesn't like that, I'm sorry.

There's not going to be the animosity and bickering and ugliness here that has ruined other Forums.

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Old 09-27-2006, 08:20 AM
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numbers don't lie but you can lie with numbers.

you new yorkers just make up your own tales to tell don't ya.

the article says 38%, that would be a 5% better than expected
ITM percent if you only count three circuits. how convenient that you discount Illinois, Texas, and Florida.

that makes six circuits, and thus presses the Percntage to 38% vs. 16.66 which is 1/6.
Don't forget to add in the rest of the world -- Europe, Asia, Australia, etc.

P.S. Never confront Easterners with facts, you'll get thrown off the board.
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:46 AM
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Don't forget to add in the rest of the world -- Europe, Asia, Australia, etc.

P.S. Never confront Easterners with facts, you'll get thrown off the board.
He didn't get thrown off because he doesn't agree with Eastern race fans it was because he has been rude and offensive to many people on other threads and topics, it was just the last straw.
I truely welcome any debate and Western Race has to offer. I say bring it on. I can debate and have fun with it without degrading anyone.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:50 AM
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P.S. Never confront Easterners with facts, you'll get thrown off the board.
I don't think this is a fair statement at all.

Copying, Secretariat has a long history here of being ridiculous, he had it coming. He was the first and hopefully the last that needs to go
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:54 AM
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Scavs- I think what he is implying is east coast people are stereotypcially hard headed and bullies when it comes to being right and getting their own way. God knows I work with enough imports from NYC and New Jersey to realize that this isnt the most far fetched stereotype that has ever been conceived. While I dont know enough people from Chicago (and the ones I do are all great), I cant blame people for thinking the way they do
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