The 3yo's are finally starting to look less horrible

[SCUDSBROTHER]

S.C. came in 4th (in a 5 horse field) at odds of 3/5 going 6f. That's a very highly regarded horse. It's disappointing. The trainer needs redemption for him, and the horse. No failure allowed this time. No, it's time to perform. You must perform this time. NOW!! is the time you find out what the trainer thinks is the best distance for his horse. He has to run well. So, we can go over his pedigree etc. all we want, but Sadler n' Benevidez just gave you the answer last Monday. It was a 1-turn 7f stakes race. They didn't opt for a 2 turn allowance race. Nope, they decided they had the best chance to get back on the scoreboard going 7f against a horse (Tiny Woods) that just beat them in a sprint. That is telling me, when they felt the most pressure, they preferred their chances 1 turning. These guys know how far their horses want to run. Yea, they hope they're wrong, but they usually aren't. He's won this race 3 out of the last 4 years (S Candy, Nobles Promise, Evita Argentina.) Georgie Boy, Too Much Bling, Imperialism, F Rock Star etc. have won this race. This race is primarily for 3 year old horses that eventually prove to be best going 7f-8f. It's been 13 years since a 10f horse won it. Trainers act in certain ways, and he is so acting like he's got a 7f-8f horse. Maybe he'll get 9f on a good day (alone up front.) He's not gunna get 10f. Just saying that the San Pedro n' San Vicente are probably not the place to go looking for a 10f horse. If you're looking there, then you're fishing awfully hard.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

S.C. came in 4th (in a 5 horse field) at odds of 3/5 going 6f. That's a very highly regarded horse. It's disappointing. The trainer needs redemption for him, and the horse. No failure allowed this time. No, it's time to perform. You must perform this time. NOW!! is the time you find out what the trainer thinks is the best distance for his horse. He has to run well. So, we can go over his pedigree etc. all we want, but Sadler n' Benevidez just gave you the answer last Monday. It was a 1-turn 7f stakes race. They didn't opt for a 2 turn allowance race. Nope, they decided they had the best chance to get back on the scoreboard going 7f against a horse (Tiny Woods) that just beat them in a sprint. That is telling me, when they felt the most pressure, they preferred their chances 1 turning. These guys know how far their horses want to run. Yea, they hope they're wrong, but they usually aren't. He's won this race 3 out of the last 4 years (S Candy, Nobles Promise, Evita Argentina.) Georgie Boy, Too Much Bling, Imperialism, F Rock Star etc. have won this race. This race is primarily for 3 year old horses that eventually prove to be best going 7f-8f. It's been 13 years since a 10f horse won it. Trainers act in certain ways, and he is so acting like he's got a 7f-8f horse. Maybe he'll get 9f on a good day (alone up front.) He's not gunna get 10f. Just saying that the San Pedro n' San Vicente are probably not the place to go looking for a 10f horse. If you're looking there, then you're fishing awfully hard.

silver charm also won the san vicente. couldnt it also be that they were looking to get some graded earnings with him? if they are planning on the derby they need to get them and winning an allowance race doesnt get it done.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

silver charm also won the san Vicente. couldn't it also be that they were looking to get some graded earnings with him? if they are planning on the derby they need to get them and winning an allowance race doesn't get it done.

Silver Charm was coming off a 5 month layoff (when he won the 7f San Vicente.) It wasn't the target. It was a prep. S Candy came off a layoff, and prepped in a sprint(poor effort.) Then he sprinted again. This wasn't a prep. This was put up, or shut up. I think they put him in a race of that 7f distance because they thought he preferred it. If they thought he preferred 2 turning, I think they'd of done it. They could not run poorly again. They chose their least point of resistance, and it was one turning against a horse they just lost to. To do that, I really think they trust him sprinting, and def. ain't sure about him 2 turning. If this was his 1st race off the layoff, then I'd be a lot more hopeful about him being a 10f horse. I think they went right to the animal's comfort zone.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Silver Charm was coming off a 5 month layoff (when he won the 7f San Vicente.) It wasn't the target. It was a prep. S Candy came off a layoff, and prepped in a sprint(poor effort.) Then he sprinted again. This wasn't a prep. This was put up, or shut up. I think they put him in a race of that 7f distance because they thought he preferred it. If they thought he preferred 2 turning, I think they'd of done it. They could not run poorly again. They chose their least point of resistance, and it was one turning against a horse they just lost to. To do that, I really think they trust him sprinting, and def. ain't sure about him 2 turning. If this was his 1st race off the layoff, then I'd be a lot more hopeful about him being a 10f horse. I think they went right to the animal's comfort zone.

i know silver charm was coming off a layoff. i was just pointing out that a derby winner had won the race. i understand your point and i agree with some of it. im not sure how much sidneys candy got out of the return race. he had some trouble at the start and didnt really do a whole lot of running. all of these races are preps. no ones target race is the san vicente.

i just think running in the stake makes more sense if they are seriously going to try and make the derby. he needed graded earnings and he got them. now he can have 2 preps at 2 turns and even if he doesnt win either he will still probably have the earnings to get in if they decide to go that route. with an allowance race they dont have that luxury. essentially they killed 2 birds with one stone. got a solid race into him and they dont have to worry about having the earnings to get in.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

i know silver charm was coming off a layoff. i was just pointing out that a derby winner had won the race. i understand your point and i agree with some of it. im not sure how much sidneys candy got out of the return race. he had some trouble at the start and didnt really do a whole lot of running. all of these races are preps. no ones target race is the san vicente.

i just think running in the stake makes more sense if they are seriously going to try and make the derby.

I've seen all this before. Ain't falling for it. I had high hopes for the horse, but he acts like he's training a Gayego/Georgie Boy type.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

S.C. came in 4th (in a 5 horse field) at odds of 3/5 going 6f. That's a very highly regarded horse. It's disappointing. The trainer needs redemption for him, and the horse. No failure allowed this time. No, it's time to perform. You must perform this time. NOW!! is the time you find out what the trainer thinks is the best distance for his horse. He has to run well. So, we can go over his pedigree etc. all we want, but Sadler n' Benevidez just gave you the answer last Monday. It was a 1-turn 7f stakes race. They didn't opt for a 2 turn allowance race. Nope, they decided they had the best chance to get back on the scoreboard going 7f against a horse (Tiny Woods) that just beat them in a sprint. That is telling me, when they felt the most pressure, they preferred their chances 1 turning. These guys know how far their horses want to run. Yea, they hope they're wrong, but they usually aren't. He's won this race 3 out of the last 4 years (S Candy, Nobles Promise, Evita Argentina.) Georgie Boy, Too Much Bling, Imperialism, F Rock Star etc. have won this race. This race is primarily for 3 year old horses that eventually prove to be best going 7f-8f. It's been 13 years since a 10f horse won it. Trainers act in certain ways, and he is so acting like he's got a 7f-8f horse. Maybe he'll get 9f on a good day (alone up front.) He's not gunna get 10f. Just saying that the San Pedro n' San Vicente are probably not the place to go looking for a 10f horse. If you're looking there, then you're fishing awfully hard.

Trying to read one of your run-on posts is like trying to watch a race run over poly at Del Mar. The content of the post (or quality of the field) doesn't matter as the eyes start to bleed from the strain of reading your post (or watching the race).

Have you ever heard

of

a freaking paragraph?

You give the West Covina Unified School District a bad name, and I really didn't think that was possible, as I thought they had cornered that market all for themselves.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Trying to read one of your run-on posts is like trying to watch a...

Then, don't read it. Amazing how you're so into form n' aesthetics, but your face looks like a land mine took part in it.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Sadler ran Dave in Dixie 7f in his first race, and then he goes right to 2 turning. He brought him back off a layoff by starting him in a 2 turn stakes. He's normally not shy about 2 turning, but he's been shy about it with S.C.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Then, don't read it. Amazing how you're so into form n' aesthetics, but your face looks like a land mine took part in it.

My face looks like it took part in form n' aesthetics?

You must have had something in your mouth when you said that.

Or was it something in your hands when you typed that?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

My face looks like it took part in form n' aesthetics?

You must have had something in your mouth when you said that.

Or was it something in your hands when you typed that?

This Chinese Lady knows maybe 5 English words, but I trust her to represent my point of view (towards you) just fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rm4SazjKsQ&NR=1

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

This Chinese Lady knows maybe 5 English words, but I trust her to represent my point of view (towards you) just fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rm4SazjKsQ&NR=1

That is interesting that you chose someone to represent your point of view that has about the same command of the English language as you.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That is interesting that you chose someone to represent your point of view that has about the same command of the English language as you.

The showmanship is top rate. The "HA" sound at 0:58 is akin to a growl. The f bomb at 1:31 is particularly strong.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That is interesting that you chose someone to represent your point of view that has about the same command of the English language as you.

I didn't know you got to do a commercial with Lamar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcXfCfzFtW4