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Old 02-21-2010, 03:11 AM
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CORPORAL JONES

3 g Pentire - Assesarose
5 starts - 2 wins, 2 seconds, 1 third
Trainer: Andrew Scott
Odds: 5-1

Replays:
Best, last start: Championship Stakes (2nd): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_xJ_UH7rgI

+ Never runs a bad race
+ Excellent in Waikato Guineas (2nd), even better in Championship Stakes (2nd)
+ Getting better all the time

- He's running well, but Zarzuela's beating him without any excuses.

Verdict: It looks like this guy might be peaking at exactly the right time. His Championship Stakes run was by far the best of his life so far, and heaps better than his good Waikato Guineas effort. A lot of people are saying he can beat Zarzuela and Katie Lee. We'll see! I think 5-1 is fair.
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Old 02-22-2010, 05:03 AM
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KING RAEDWALD

3 c Red Ransom - Lady Circles
7 starts, 3 wins, 1 third
Trainer: Kevin Gray
Odds: 11-1

Replays:
Very nice win against low-class opposition Feb 7: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcbnsy_king-raedwald
Last start: Championship Stakes (3rd): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_xJ_UH7rgI

+ Finished strongly at the end of the 2100m Championship Stakes
+ Trainer great at having horses at their best at exactly the right time (like Daffodil!)
+ Kevin Gray and jockey Hayden Tinsley were at Ellerslie to be with King Raedwald instead of at New Plymouth with Daffodil!

- He was still 3 lengths back from Zarzuela and Corporal Jones. Maybe not quite at their class level yet?

Verdict: This is a really nice colt, and there was a lot to like about his Championship Stakes effort. But I get the feeling he's going to be a better horse in about a year. The stable and jockey are highly confident though, and they always have to be respected. Likely to be the 'wise guy' horse.
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Old 02-22-2010, 06:38 PM
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+ Kevin Gray and jockey Hayden Tinsley were at Ellerslie to be with King Raedwald instead of at New Plymouth with Daffodil!


Okay well that tells me something about this guy!
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Old 02-23-2010, 05:24 AM
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Okay well that tells me something about this guy!
I know! Hope he does well.

MILTARY MOVE

3 g Volksraad - All Night Party
7 starts - 1 win, 2 seconds, 1 third
Trainer: Shaune Ritchie
Odds: 20-1

Replays:
Best: 2000 Guineas (2nd): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Hyvcnk1EI
Last start: Championshp Stakes (5th): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_xJ_UH7rgI

+ Never, ever runs a bad race - no matter what track, distance, track condition
+ Huge finish in the Championship Stakes

- Hasn't won a race since September.

Verdict: He's never finished further back than 5th in his life, and 6 of his 7 career starts have been in stakes races. But he always seems to find one or two horses that are a tiny bit better on the day, and he hasn't won a race since September. I don't think he can win the Derby, but he could come a nice 2nd, 3rd or 4th if he has a good day.
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Old 02-23-2010, 11:43 AM
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I don't think he can win the Derby, but he could come a nice 2nd, 3rd or 4th if he has a good day.
... and win a really nice one later in the year, huh?

He's an awfully nice boy it's just there are too many really reeeeally good ones this year.

I love his name.

Well I do!
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Old 02-23-2010, 05:59 PM
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It's a good name! And yeah, I could see him winning a nice race somewhere.

Big news:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/racing/new...ectid=10628101

Katie.
Feel sorry for Michael though. But he gets Imabayboy.
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Old 02-23-2010, 10:25 PM
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But he gets Imabayboy.
IMABAYBOY

3 g San Luis - English Kath
14 starts - 5 wins, 2 seconds, 1 third
Trainer: Trent Busuttin
Odds: 20-1

Replays:
Best, last start: Rating 80 (1st): http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xccj0f_imabayboy

+ 5 wins - more than anyone in the field except Katie Lee
+ Not far away and a bit unlucky when 5th in the Waikato Guineas
+ Huge win last start (against good older horses) at his first try at 2100m - 2400m should be fine

- Hasn't really been racing against great opposition until his last couple

Verdict: I don't know! I thought he wasn't good enough, but I've had to change my mind about him in the last couple of weeks. I think if he had been born a year earlier, he would have won the Derby last year. But this year's field is so much tougher, so I don't know. Like Military Move, there's a nice race for him somewhere.

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Old 02-24-2010, 03:12 PM
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It's a good name! And yeah, I could see him winning a nice race somewhere.

Big news:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/racing/new...ectid=10628101

Katie.
Feel sorry for Michael though. But he gets Imabayboy.
Oh wow huge news but yeah I feel bad too...

Very rushed, will read again later but hey I'm glad she's going to the Derby!!!!!
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SMOKIN' GUN

3 g High Chaparral - Rapida
7 starts - 2 wins, 1 second
Trainer: Craig Thornton
Odds: 60-1

Replays:

Woodville Rating 70 (1st): http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcf...oodville_sport
Last start: Waikato Guineas (13th): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJMqU75285M

+ Excellent pedigree - High Chaparral is having an amazing season, and Rapida is the dam of several horses that have done well in stakes races over long distances (Gin Dartre, Courtney, Ivy's League)
+ Stylish win at Woodville
+ Had excuses when he finished 12th, 8 lengths behind Katie Lee, in the 2000 Guineas

- Last in the Waikato Guineas last start. Didn't have a perfect trip, but should have done much better.

Verdict: This is a talented 3yo, but his last-start performance in the Waikato Guineas was too bad for him to be a legitimate contender here. He'd have to improve by at least 15 lengths. Should be closer to 100-1.
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Last one!

VOLGUS

3 c Volksraad - Gussy Godiva
10 starts - 1 win, 3 seconds, 1 third
Trainer: Allan Sharrock
Odds: 100-1

Replays:
2yo win: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcf...hastings_sport
Last start: Rating 70 (2nd): http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcf...lgus-2nd_sport

+ Half-brother to Rios and Roman Emperor. Roman Emperor won the AJC Derby in Sydney.
+ Very good win against a good field as a 2yo
+ Strong 2nd (against a poor field) over 2000m last time

- No wins as a 3yo

Verdict: I actually really like this horse. He's beautifully bred, and he hasn't done much wrong in his racing career - he's finished in the first five 7 times out of 10. But he hasn't been racing against strong company this year, and hasn't won a race since he was 2. The Derby might be too soon for him, but I still don't think he should be at 100-1. Legitimate chance of finishing in the money.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:42 AM
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And here's the field:

1 MONACO CONSUL
Draw: 8
Trainer: Mike & Paul Moroney
Jockey: Leith Innes
Odds: 5-1

2 MILITARY MOVE
Draw: 4
Trainer: Shaune Ritchie
Jockey: Michael Walker
Odds: 25-1

3 KING RAEDWALD
Draw: 15
Trainer: Kevin Gray
Jockey: Hayden Tinsley
Odds: 11-1

4 MARTIAL ART
Draw: 7
Trainer: Mark Walker
Jockey: Vinnie Colgan
Odds: 60-1

5 TIME KEEPER
Draw: 9
Trainer: Graeme Nicholson & Paul Allbon
Jockey: Andrew Calder
Odds: 30-1

6 CORPORAL JONES
Draw: 11
Trainer: Andrew Scott
Jockey: Zac Purton
Odds: 4-1

7 SMOKIN' GUN
Draw: 5
Trainer: Craig Thornton
Jockey: Lisa Allpress
Odds: 40-1

8 BALLYBIT
Draw: 6
Trainer: Allan Sharrock
Jockey: Matthew Cameron
Odds: 30-1

9 IMABAYBOY
Draw: 14
Trainer: Trent Busuttin
Jockey: Michael Coleman
Odds: 20-1

10 HANDSOME ZULU
Draw: 3
Trainer: John Sargent
Jockey: Mark Du Plessis
Odds: 13-1

11 VOLGUS
Draw: 1
Trainer: Allan Sharrock
Jockey: Allan Peard
Odds: 100-1

12 NO EMOTION
Draw: 2
Trainer: John Sargent
Jockey: Jonathan Riddell

13 KATIE LEE
Draw: 10
Trainer: Graeme & Debbie Rogerson
Jockey: Opie Bosson
Odds: 6-1

14 ZARZUELA
Draw: 13
Trainer: Mark Walker
Jockey: James McDonald
Odds: 2.8-1

15 JUNGLE JUICE
Draw: 12
Trainer: Donna, Dean Logan & Chris Gibbs
Jockey: Troy Harris
Odds: 60-1

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And here's the field:
OHMYGODARENTYOUEXCITED?!!!!!

I like so many of these horses... gotta hope Katie wins though.

Katie Lee
Zarzuela
Monaco Consul and I'mabayboy (I love him! ) in either order

I'll be happy if any of these four win.

Hell I'll just be happy for the winner, period.

Nice, nice field and thank you ed for educating us, for your insight, your time and for your enthusiasm which is contagious.
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