The 3yo's are finally starting to look less horrible

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Scav

Stop it

To tell you the truth at 1500 a shot and with the Indy money as strong as it is... you get 5 decent mares that can produce and you will have 3 or 4 solid earners

[Scav]

Originally Posted by freddymo

To tell you the truth at 1500 a shot and with the Indy money as strong as it is... you get 5 decent mares that can produce and you will have 3 or 4 solid earners

The Indy program is exactly like the Penn program. It is going to rapidly get better because people are dropping foals there because dropping in KY makes zero sense.

The major problem with the Indy program is their lack of stakes races for IN bred horses. IL has four days specific to IL breds, 75-100k races, IN has two and only one or two route races.

They do write Allowance races up to nw4, and have an open allowance condition for IN breds, so that is a positive

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

gl getting a stud fee on an indy bred after they 'have done enough' thats why people drop in kentucky



The Indy program is exactly like the Penn program. It is going to rapidly get better because people are dropping foals there because dropping in KY makes zero sense.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

gl getting a stud fee on an indy bred after they 'have done enough' thats why people drop in kentucky

I get it now...There are plenty of non-KY stallions.

Wasn't Smart Strike an Ontario bred?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Yes.

He's an Ontario bred that is bred better than 99.99% of Kentucky breds.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yes.

He's an Ontario bred that is bred better than 99.99% of Kentucky breds.

I used to post on the Pedigreequery forum like 7 years ago and some guy was pitching Smart Strike when he first came out or shortly after his first few crops..Anyway he certainly was prolific

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Scav

I get it now...There are plenty of non-KY stallions.

Wasn't Smart Strike an Ontario bred?

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yes.

He's an Ontario bred that is bred better than 99.99% of Kentucky breds.

He's amazing... but not even the best Ontario-bred stallion/racehorse standing in Kentucky.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Don't tell me you think Awesome Again is bred better than him?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Don't tell me you think Awesome Again is bred better than him?

Better bred? Mr. P out of an excellent racemare and superior producer is difficult to argue against, even with Deputy Minister out of a broodmare of the year. I'm talking about race record and sire production. Race record it's no contest (even though Smart Strike was damn good), on production they are both amazing and would be my #1 and #1a choices if I had a good mare.

My point was more that a lot is made out of being a Kentucky Bred around here and that's kind of a hoax when you think about it. It's the same dopes who said Funny Cide couldn't win the Derby because he was a NY-Bred gelding. The horse doesn't care where he was born.