Kauto Star and Denman

NoChanceToDance · #1 02-14-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy

I agree fully - McCoy just doesnt suit him. He's great on a horse that needs coaxing along or a horse that needs to get into a rhythm but Denman just needs to be left to do what he does best, jump and stay..

Ruby is exceptionally good on him and obviously he cant be jockey when riding Kauto but Sam Thomas has done a decent job (Aintree last year excluded) and he should have kept the job..

My mate summed it up perfectly last night. He said it's just like Man City and Rubinho (sorry for all those that don't understand this) everyone could see that he wasn't going to work there, but they wanted to sign a big name, who MIGHT do the job. Instead of signing a lesser name who they knew WOULD do the job.

Connections chose McCoy because they felt they needed a big name, and they hoped he'd be ok. And now they can't jock him off because they need to 'save face' and that's the only reason.

Nicholls was angry after the race, and I've never seen him like that before no matter of the end result, and to me that meant he was unhappy too, but in his position he couldn't criticise, but I do feel if he made every decision, Sam would still be on his back when Ruby was unavailable.

I have nothing against AP, although I don't feel he is quite as good as people make out, I admire that he gives 110% and he is able to get the best out of some horses that other people can't. However, his style does not suit Denman. Right from the 'off' yesterday McCoy was niggling him and sqeezing him at every fence. Now that's not his fault, it's the way he rides, but if he does the same thing in the Gold Cup I'm afraid to say the result will more than likely be the same - we can only hope that the horse isn't injured because of it.

my miss storm cat · #2 03-07-2010, 11:00 AM

I thought this was a nice little piece...

Favorite line is "Denman is a bit of a brute ... he'd sort of kill you if you look at him over the box

... he'd snap your hand off. Kauto is the complete opposite ... a bit of a softie."

http://racing.scmp.com/freeservice/n...s20100307g.asp

ARyan · #3 03-08-2010, 01:44 PM

Go Kauto Star!!!

my miss storm cat · #4 03-13-2010, 12:41 PM

How it's shaping up...

(What happened to What a Friend?)

Friday March 19 2010
Cheltenham 15:20

totesport Cheltenham Gold Cup (Grade 1)
£475000.00 added, 5yo plus, 3m 2f 110y, Class 1
12 runners
Going: Good to Soft, Good in places

Form Horse Age Wt Trainer Jockey OR NagMe Bet
204-P01 Calgary Bay (IRE) 7 11-10 Miss H C Knight 153 SP SP
66/1
114-512 Carruthers 7 11-10 M Bradstock 155 SP SP
40/1
P15P-14 Casey Jones (IRE) 9 11-10 Noel Meade 152 SP SP
100/1
50PP/05- Cerium (FR) 9 11-10 Paul Murphy 133 SP SP
300/1
311-4P2 Cooldine (IRE) 8 11-10 W P Mullins 160 SP SP
10/1
1/22F-1U Denman (IRE) 10 11-10 P F Nicholls 182 SP SP
3/1
161-P25 Imperial Commander (IRE) 9 11-10 N A Twiston-Davies 174 SP SP
10/1
1U11-11 Kauto Star (FR) 10 11-10 P F Nicholls 195 SP SP
8/13
01-P346 Mon Mome (FR) 10 11-10 Miss V Williams 153 SP SP
100/1
6P/6220- Mr Pointment (IRE) 11 11-10 Paul Murphy 141 SP SP
300/1
553-205 My Will (FR) 10 11-10 P F Nicholls 150 SP SP
66/1
2121-21 Tricky Trickster (IRE) 7 11-10 P F Nicholls 149 SP SP
25/1

brockguy · #5 03-19-2010, 06:32 AM

What a race we have today!!!

Kauto or Denman??

Can I take Cooldine and Imperial Commander??

herkhorse · #6 03-19-2010, 10:02 AM

I've really enjoyed watching these races. Today I will make my first bet, 20wp on
Cooldine.

herkhorse · #7 03-19-2010, 10:10 AM

only 11 horses in this one, I hate these short fields.