Thoughts On NBA at midseason

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

NONE OF THE STARTERS SHOOTS 3's or PASSES! That doesnt work. Rose is a shoot first PG that now isnt going to have the pumpkin most of the time and has to find shots for other players. Defenses can collapse the lane because there is no one to keep them honest with range. Teams just arent built like this. There is no question that all of those guys are talented but that team isnt contending for a title. Lebron is going to get someone. That team that you have assembled isnt going to beat lebron+ (joe johnson?) and whoever else they have. It isnt beating the lakers.

Moving the 3 pt line changed the game and teams that can't consistently knock them down don't win. Period. Teams that don't pass, don't win. Period. I think you are just being stubborn because obviously you know this stuff.

Its a moot point regardless.

Fine, Who is the Lakers big 3 point shooter? Their starters avg hitting just over 3 a game. Kobe? hits just over 1 a game. Artest? same with him. That is the key to thier offense? Yeah ok.

None of the starters pass? That is ridiclous. Just stupid. Like it is a collecion of 5 gunners. Noah rarely shoots, Bosh needs to be fed, he doesnt create his own shot, Deng and Rose would certainly defer to Wade. Your premise that this isnt how teams are built is close to insane. The NBA is a matchup league and that lineup would provide a lot of match up problems. You think adding a three point shooter wouldnt be hard? You dont think open shots would be created with that team on the floor? You must have be brainwashed by watching too many Wizards games...

I havent seen a team collapse a defense in the NBA ever. Do you even watch the games?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Fine, Who is the Lakers big 3 point shooter? Their starters avg hitting just over 3 a game. Kobe? hits just over 1 a game. Artest? same with him. That is the key to thier offense? Yeah ok.

The Lakers are top 10 in the league in three pointers made and attempted. Every PG they use (fisher, farmar, vucacic) shoots over 35%. Artest is shooting 38%. Kobe 32%. They, as a team, have taken 1028 3 pt shots and made 358.

Kobe is 70-214. Artest is 75-190. Fisher (plays 27 mins) 48-137. Compare that to:

Wade is 54-182. Deng is 23-56. Rose is 5-22. I would imagine your math is as good as your poli/sci so I will tell you that Wade/Rose shoot below 30% from the 3 pt line.

In the NBA, you can't have two guys in your backcourt that can't shoot 30% from 3 pt range and win championships. But then again, Im sure you knew that.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The Lakers are top 10 in the league in three pointers made and attempted. Every PG they use (fisher, farmar, vucacic) shoots over 35%. Artest is shooting 38%. Kobe 32%. They, as a team, have taken 1028 3 pt shots and made 358.

Kobe is 70-214. Artest is 75-190. Fisher (plays 27 mins) 48-137. Compare that to:

Wade is 54-182. Deng is 23-56. Rose is 5-22. I would imagine your math is as good as your poli/sci so I will tell you that Wade/Rose shoot below 30% from the 3 pt line.

In the NBA, you can't have two guys in your backcourt that can't shoot 30% from 3 pt range and win championships. But then again, Im sure you knew that.

They are 15th in the league in 3 point %. They are 9th in 3 pt FG's behind the Knicks, Pacers, Bucks, Hornets, Rockets. You naturally include the entire lakers roster and dont talk about Salmons who has made more 3 pointers this season than Artest or point out that Deng is shooting 41% and would surely find himself open for more looks when surrounded by offensive players like Wade, Rose and a low post threat of Bosh. You also act as though there wont be a ton of cheap, one dimensional shooters available for them to grab.

You know why the lakers shoot so many 3's? Because they have a terrific lineup that creates matchup problems leaving those other guys wide open. Ignoring that the lineup presented in the theoritical conversation wouldnt create a lot of wide open shots for the lesser lights simply doesnt fit into your argument.