Thoughts On NBA at midseason

[horseofcourse]

The problem with Cleveland getting Jamison is the Wizards will insist on getting Hickson in that trade. If it was simply for Z, the Cavs would have done it at any time the last 6 months. Hickson is 21 and has massive upside. The Cavs have lacked people like that in the entire LeBron era. I agree with Cannon that Hickson is completely lost at times, but if they want to keep LeBron they are going to have to have at least some young talent to grow around him. I'd like to have Jamison honestly, but absolutley no way I give up Hickson to get him. The guy has untapped ability and just turned 21. It would be an ignorant move to trade him and that's what getting Jamison means I think. I wouldn't do it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

The problem with Cleveland getting Jamison is the Wizards will insist on getting Hickson in that trade. If it was simply for Z, the Cavs would have done it at any time the last 6 months. Hickson is 21 and has massive upside. The Cavs have lacked people like that in the entire LeBron era. I agree with Cannon that Hickson is completely lost at times, but if they want to keep LeBron they are going to have to have at least some young talent to grow around him. I'd like to have Jamison honestly, but absolutley no way I give up Hickson to get him. The guy has untapped ability and just turned 21. It would be an ignorant move to trade him and that's what getting Jamison means I think. I wouldn't do it.

More importantly you have Hickson under contract for about 6 million for the next 3 years while you would have to pay Jamison 28 million for the next 2. Would I trade Ilgauskas (his contract basically) straight up for jamison if i were Cleveland? Sure. If they wanted Hickson too I would hesitate to do it, if only because Jamison doesnt have a great track record in staying healthy. He would strictly be a high priced rental but Cleveland feels they have to win this year and AJ would be a nice fit for Cleveland THIS year.

[horseofcourse]

I would have preferred to stay out of this thread, but I was flabbergasted by dala's statement that the Cavs were better last year. It made zero sense to me. I realize Shaq is 1/20th of the player he used to be, but having him instead of Ben Wallace?? Come on. That's a huge and significant upgrade. Losing Pavlovic and Sczerbiak is a huge upgrade no matter who raplaces them...Parker, Moon etc. It's another upgrade. LeBron, Varejao, Hickson are all better than they were last year. The only major issue where they have gone down from last year is Delonte West's personal craziness. He's slipped and has been pretty much a non-entity most of the year and it hasn't really affected them. Don't even know if he'll be available come playoff time with court dates and everything.

What noone talks about is the Leon Powe reports are all postive about where he stands physically. He's precticing without issue. He's going to be added to the roster the second half. Another physical presence. With or without Jamison, they are undoubtedly better than last year. Whether they can win a title I have no idea. But I think they have more of a chance than last year whether they acquire Jamison or not.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I would have preferred to stay out of this thread, but I was flabbergasted by dala's statement that the Cavs were better last year. It made zero sense to me. I realize Shaq is 1/20th of the player he used to be, but having him instead of Ben Wallace?? Come on. That's a huge and significant upgrade. Losing Pavlovic and Sczerbiak is a huge upgrade no matter who raplaces them...Parker, Moon etc. It's another upgrade. LeBron, Varejao, Hickson are all better than they were last year. The only major issue where they have gone down from last year is Delonte West's personal craziness. He's slipped and has been pretty much a non-entity most of the year and it hasn't really affected them. Don't even know if he'll be available come playoff time with court dates and everything.

What noone talks about is the Leon Powe reports are all postive about where he stands physically. He's precticing without issue. He's going to be added to the roster the second half. Another physical presence. With or without Jamison, they are undoubtedly better than last year. Whether they can win a title I have no idea. But I think they have more of a chance than last year whether they acquire Jamison or not.

You need to control your flabber.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You need to control your flabber.

I know you dont' think they can win it all which is fine. I don't really know either. I'm pretty dumb on face value. Just face the obvious truth that despite you thinking they can't win, they are undoubtedly a better team this year. You are so wrong by saying they were better last year it's beyond stupid. Yes, stupid.

[horseofcourse]

and in the end I presented logical reasons why they certainly appeared to me to be a better team this year, and you countered with nothing. Zero. So my only conclusion is you are wrong and you know it.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I know you dont' think they can win it all which is fine. I don't really know either. I'm pretty dumb on face value. Just face the obvious truth that despite you thinking they can't win, they are undoubtedly a better team this year. You are so wrong by saying they were better last year it's beyond stupid. Yes, stupid.

Yes, stupid. They are better this year.

Relax my friend. I apologize if I insulted you.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Yes, stupid. They are better this year.

Relax my friend. I apologize if I insulted you.

Thank you. I'm not insulted about anything. I know this team. I follow this team. I saw issues last year. I really don't see as many this year. I don't. And they have improved and they have the best player on the floor every single game they play. Yes, even when they play the Lakers!!! (and you know it!)

[clyde]

and in the end I presented logical reasons why they certainly appeared to me to be a better team this year, and you countered with nothing. Zero. So my only conclusion is you are wrong and you know it.



Dammit!!....Stop chewing your prey!!



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