This is a pretty sick race...

Gaining Ground · #1 02-11-2010, 11:38 AM

scratches really should help out snapshot. i like him but am worried about that 7th furlong

Kasept · #2 02-11-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

scratches really should help out snapshot. i like him but am worried about that 7th furlong

GG,

Agreed... I added him to the P4 play myself. Faces much less pressure now post-SCR's. (And He's So Chic is going to be overlooked and figures to sit a nice stalking trip outside... Added him to the play as well.)

knickslions2 · #3 02-11-2010, 12:16 PM

Did Presto scratch or is he back in?

RockHardTen1985 · #4 02-11-2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

scratches really should help out snapshot. i like him but am worried about that 7th furlong

The scratch was HUGE, Im using Snapshot and Warrior, I dont think anyone else can win now, would not be suprised to see BWE run big, but was he ever that good?

hockey2315 · #5 02-11-2010, 01:26 PM

Was Warrior's Reward ever good?

RockHardTen1985 · #6 02-11-2010, 01:30 PM

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Was Warrior's Reward ever good?

Are you kidding me, at one point last year he was top 3.
Dont play with me about him, I have a soft spot in my heart for him.

hockey2315 · #7 02-11-2010, 01:38 PM

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Are you kidding me, at one point last year he was top 3.
Dont play with me about him, I have a soft spot in my heart for him.

And a soft spot in your wallet.

NTamm1215 · #8 02-11-2010, 01:46 PM

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Was Warrior's Reward ever good?

I think Warrior's Reward's season last year would have been completely different if he had been kept going one turn at a mile or under. He was totally wasted in the Dwyer-Dandy-Travers and Wilkes knows it now. His win on Oaks day (while via a very nice trip) was solid.

I think he has a chance to be a very nice closing sprinter.

NT

RockHardTen1985 · #9 02-11-2010, 01:47 PM

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I think Warrior's Reward's season last year would have been completely different if he had been kept going one turn at a mile or under. He was totally wasted in the Dwyer-Dandy-Travers and Wilkes knows it now. His win on Oaks day (while via a very nice trip) was solid.

I think he has a chance to be a very nice closing sprinter.

NT

I think he would win the Met if rode the right way. Hes a serious serious horse.

the_fat_man · #10 02-11-2010, 01:50 PM

This horse has yet to run what I consider a GOOD race. Not saying he can't but since he hasn't to this point, I'll just consider him to be what he is: a horse that needs a PERFECT SETUP to run well. Plenty of horses can pick up the pace sprinting when the race collapses.

Maybe he got better as a 4 year old. We'll see.

freddymo · #11 02-11-2010, 01:54 PM

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This horse has yet to run what I consider a GOOD race. Not saying he can't but since he hasn't to this point, I'll just consider him to be what he is: a horse that needs a PERFECT SETUP to run well. Plenty of horses can pick up the pace sprinting when the race collapses.

Maybe he got better as a 4 year old. We'll see.

I Liked when WB was open because apparently you have no clue how to earn on grass or dirt..

freddymo · #12 02-11-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

This horse has yet to run what I consider a GOOD race. Not saying he can't but since he hasn't to this point, I'll just consider him to be what he is: a horse that needs a PERFECT SETUP to run well. Plenty of horses can pick up the pace sprinting when the race collapses.

Maybe he got better as a 4 year old. We'll see.

Fats that was a "wipe out"winner nice call stick to poly

hockey2315 · #13 02-11-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I think Warrior's Reward's season last year would have been completely different if he had been kept going one turn at a mile or under. He was totally wasted in the Dwyer-Dandy-Travers and Wilkes knows it now. His win on Oaks day (while via a very nice trip) was solid.

I think he has a chance to be a very nice closing sprinter.

NT

I originally shared your opinion on him, but after further consideration and evidence I think you're much better off having a negative opinion on him since he'll forever be overbet off the hype and one false performance.

For starters - his trip on Oaks day was more than very nice - it was perfect.

The pace was absurdly fast (99+13, 101+8, 98+2) and he got the patented Borel ride that turned Mine that Bird into a completely different horse the next day. I'm also not sure what to make of Munnings running second now that we know he hates wet surfaces (granted, the track was "good" and not "sloppy").

You can only make so many excuses for him before the 113 looks like an exception and not the rule. He might be able to win this race with a mediocre performance because there are a lot of question marks in the field, but I will be shocked if he ever runs back to the big fig and shakes his current status as a perpetual underlay.

RockHardTen1985 · #14 02-11-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

I originally shared your opinion on him, but after further consideration and evidence I think you're much better off having a negative opinion on him since he'll forever be overbet off the hype and one false performance.

For starters - his trip on Oaks day was more than very nice - it was perfect.

The pace was absurdly fast (99+13, 101+8, 98+2) and he got the patented Borel ride that turned Mine that Bird into a completely different horse the next day. I'm also not sure what to make of Munnings running second now that we know he hates wet surfaces (granted, the track was "good" and not "sloppy").

You can only make so many excuses for him before the 113 looks like an exception and not the rule. He might be able to win this race with a mediocre performance because there are a lot of question marks in the field, but I will be shocked if he ever runs back to the big fig and shakes his current status as a perpetual underlay.

I cant beleive how your turning on him.
Go bet Kensei somewhere.

RockHardTen1985 · #15 02-11-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

I originally shared your opinion on him, but after further consideration and evidence I think you're much better off having a negative opinion on him since he'll forever be overbet off the hype and one false performance.

For starters - his trip on Oaks day was more than very nice - it was perfect.

The pace was absurdly fast (99+13, 101+8, 98+2) and he got the patented Borel ride that turned Mine that Bird into a completely different horse the next day. I'm also not sure what to make of Munnings running second now that we know he hates wet surfaces (granted, the track was "good" and not "sloppy").

You can only make so many excuses for him before the 113 looks like an exception and not the rule. He might be able to win this race with a mediocre performance because there are a lot of question marks in the field, but I will be shocked if he ever runs back to the big fig and shakes his current status as a perpetual underlay.

Another thing, they messed with this horses running style how many times last year? From 7f-9f how many 3yr olds last year can you say were 100% better then him, IMO not many.

hockey2315 · #16 02-11-2010, 02:07 PM

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I cant beleive how your turning on him.
Go bet Kensei somewhere.

Kensei accomplished more last year than this horse ever will. And I guess you didn't read my post in the other thread.

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Another thing, they messed with this horses running style how many times last year? From 7f-9f how many 3yr olds last year can you say were 100% better then him, IMO not many.

How many horses were better than him last year? Let's see . . . Flavor, El Brujo, Not For Silver, Conchacer, Evolutionist, Summer Bird, Hold Me Back, Quality Road, Charitable Man, Kensei, Convocation, Successful Dan. . . Should I continue?