on the filibuster

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

That's immoral. They can call it what they want, but they aren't treating Americans alike.

Congress is where Americans are represented by their numbers. The Senate represents "the States", not those states' populations.

That said, I agree with all you said about the Dems being pussies. The only one who has remotely stood up lately is the President, and the Dems are not even following his lead. The Dems have the mandate, and they are blowing it.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Congress is where Americans are represented by their numbers. The Senate represents "the States", not those states' populations.

That said, I agree with all you said about the Dems being pussies. The only one who has remotely stood up lately is the President, and the Dems are not even following his lead. The Dems have the mandate, and they are blowing it.

Congress is both the House and the Senate. The House is the one based on population, and the Senate based upon equal shares of U.S. sovreignty -- which reduces to 2 votes per state.

The Dems do not have a mandate. They were the "not Bush" party when Bush was no longer running, and the emotional population put them in the majority. In two years time, most of the people who voted Democratic have realized that the Dem's agenda sucks, at least for the working people who pay the tax dollars that Congress spends. They will rightfully and soundly be pounded at the polls in November.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

The Dems do not have a mandate.

Well, actually, yes, they do indeed have the electoral mandate. In the Executive Branch, in the Congress [House of Reps to make Joey happy], in the Senate.

I just posted today's Rasmussen poll over in your other thread (your poll thread) that shows the Dems - for today at least - clearly in the lead.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, actually, yes, they do indeed have the electoral mandate. In the Executive Branch, in the Congress [House of Reps to make Joey happy], in the Senate.

I just posted today's Rasmussen poll over in your other thread (your poll thread) that shows the Dems - for today at least - clearly in the lead.

Except the Dems clearly dont lead the polls when the Tea partyers and GOP are added together. Since Palin "heads" the tea Partiers and you, Bob and the Today show say shes the face of the GOP I want to hear the reasoning on how the Dems clearly are in the lead.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Except the Dems clearly dont lead the polls when the Tea partyers and GOP are added together. Since Palin "heads" the tea Partiers and you, Bob and the Today show say shes the face of the GOP I want to hear the reasoning on how the Dems clearly are in the lead.

From what I see the Tea Partiers and the GOP are not going to vote together (witness what has happened already in elections where there are candidates from both Baggers and GOP running - NY Congress, the Dem won, hello!); that the part of the GOP that supports Baggers is moving away from Baggers and back to the GOP; and that Independents are moving away from the GOP and Baggers.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

From what I see the Tea Partiers and the GOP are not going to vote together (witness what has happened already in elections where there are candidates from both Baggers and GOP running - NY Congress, the Dem won, hello!); that the part of the GOP that supports Baggers is moving away from Baggers and back to the GOP; and that Independents are moving away from the GOP and Baggers.

There really is nothing unusual about a Dem. winning a House seat in N.Y. is there? In that particular case the Republican was far more liberal than the Dem. and had to bow out. The "tea bagger" was a relative unknown who almost won. If I remember right the Repub stayed on the ballot. I may be wrong about the last one.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

There really is nothing unusual about a Dem. winning a House seat in N.Y. is there? In that particular case the Republican was far more liberal than the Dem. and had to bow out. The "tea bagger" was a relative unknown who almost won. If I remember right the Repub stayed on the ballot. I may be wrong about the last one.

The unusualness is that that seat has always been Republican for like 40 years.

The Republican candidate bowed out when the Tea Party candidate appeared (who I think appeared on the ballot as an "independent", but not sure), and put support behind the Democrat, who then won.

The Tea Party (there are various Bagger groups, and a bit of infighting, so that kind of unfairly paints them all with the same name, there is not just one group of "Tea Party" people, there are several) - the TP intends to put up candidates against Republicans in the primaries this fall. We'll see how it works out.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

That said, I agree with all you said about the Dems being pussies. The only one who has remotely stood up lately is the President, and the Dems are not even following his lead. The Dems have the mandate, and they are blowing it.

From who? Obama?

The Dems are simply following the lead of their constituents, you know the people they represent. Something to do with JOBS lol

Unlike you, few treat Obama as their Messiah and thank the Lord for that. As I've said before I hope this Pres continues to do what he wants and not what the citizens want. I really just can't wait to see what magnificence he shows in the private sector.

[Riot]

From who? Obama?[/quote]

Naw, the obvious electoral majority the Dems hold: the Presidency, and Congress.

The Dems are simply following the lead of their constituents, you know the people they represent. Something to do with JOBS lol

In my view, it's generally good when pols follow what their constituents elected them to do. In fact, even the GOP constituents want jobs, no?

Unlike you, few treat Obama as their Messiah and thank the Lord for that.

You and reality seem to have a strange disconnect. I've never treated Obama like a Messiah, and I've certainly written here plenty of what I don't like about him.

As I've said before I hope this Pres continues to do what he wants and not what the citizens want. I really just can't wait to see what magnificence he shows in the private sector.

The citizens "want" exactly what he is doing. He's never had more support.

Tax cuts for "the private sector" (business) should make you pretty happy, I'd think.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

From who? Obama?

The citizens "want" exactly what he is doing. He's never had more support.

Tax cuts for "the private sector" (business) should make you pretty happy, I'd think.[/quote]

In spite of the polls. You are the dining room table Barney Frank was talking about arguing with. Once again a poll titled "Obama Hits Lowest Approval Mark" dated TODAY!!!!

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal..._hits_lowe.php

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The citizens "want" exactly what he is doing. He's never had more support.

Tax cuts for "the private sector" (business) should make you pretty happy, I'd think.

In spite of the polls. You are the dining room table Barney Frank was talking about arguing with. Once again a poll titled "Obama Hits Lowest Approval Mark" dated TODAY!!!!

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal..._hits_lowe.php[/quote]

www.rasmussenreports.com

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

In spite of the polls. You are the dining room table Barney Frank was talking about arguing with. Once again a poll titled "Obama Hits Lowest Approval Mark" dated TODAY!!!!

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal..._hits_lowe.php

www.rasmussenreports.com[/quote]

you should get down and pray the Tea Party doesn't go away!

from your source

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ssional_ballot


and wish he would listen to this poll but fat chance, again from your source.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...reduce_deficit

[Riot]

you should get down and pray the Tea Party doesn't go away!

from your source

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ssional_ballot


and wish he would listen to this poll but fat chance, again from your source.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...reduce_deficit

Dell, you're acting like a dining room table. You're confusing apples with oranges.