85 in a 50!!

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by jms62

First NYRA Apoligist. Takes a shot.. Think we may hit 6 horses for the next prep Nick? NY Debry Preps are a F**u**c***k**i**n**g Joke but I am sure you know that deep down inside. Unfortunately your job states otherwise. Lets play Jeopardy Nick....

Answer 2008 Gotham Stakes
Question: What is the last Nyra Triple Crown Prep Race to offer a Superfecta Bet?

First of all, there was a super in the 2009 Gotham. It paid $351.70.

More importantly, and your frustration with field sizes in stakes lately is understood, but you have to know what you're dealing with in NY this time of year. Does anyone really consider the Count Fleet and Whirlaway Derby preps? If you have a quality 3YO right now you want him tested and that's just not what's going to happen as easily in NY as it will in other places.

NT

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

First of all, there was a super in the 2009 Gotham. It paid $351.70.

More importantly, and your frustration with field sizes in stakes lately is understood, but you have to know what you're dealing with in NY this time of year. Does anyone really consider the Count Fleet and Whirlaway Derby preps? If you have a quality 3YO right now you want him tested and that's just not what's going to happen as easily in NY as it will in other places. NT

You are corrrect aboutthe2009 Gotham, I misread my stats. NYRA Derby Prep races are in ascending order. This shouldn't even be a discussion. You should be able to field a Super Race for EVERY DERBY PREP.

1. Remsen
2. Whirlaway
3.Gotham
4.Wood
5. Withers (I will give you a pass here)

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by jms62

No s**h**i**t Dick Tracy that was the Last NON BELMOT NYRA prep race that had a SUPER. NYRA Derby Prep races are in ascending order

1. Remsen
2. Whirlaway
3.Gotham
4.Wood
5. Withers (I will give you a pass here)

The sad part is we really miss Ernie Pags as at least he filled the ****in race.

Wait, so the 2008 Gotham and 2009 Gotham aren't the same? You wrote 2008 in your original post.

NT

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Wait, so the 2008 Gotham and 2009 Gotham aren't the same? You wrote 2008 in your original post.

NT

See my update I was wrong about 2009 and admit it and I am sorry. Will you admit NYRA derby preps are NO LONGER RELEVANT?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by jms62

See my update I was wrong about 2009 and admit it and I am sorry. Will you admit NYRA derby preps are NO LONGER RELEVANT?

Without question the Count Fleet and Whirlaway are seldom relevant.

NT

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Without question the Count Fleet and Whirlaway are seldom relevant.

NT

Dude.. My year is Derby Prep Supers, otherwise I am either trading money or giving it back. Forgive me that I am VERY frustrated that NYRA can't have a Super on EVERY derby prep race. Sorry if I come across asADick

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by jms62

See my update I was wrong about 2009 and admit it and I am sorry. Will you admit NYRA derby preps are NO LONGER RELEVANT?

The winner of the 2009 Wood was the morning-line favorite for the Derby.

What preps do you deem "relevant" these days? The Blue Grass has been marginalized as a Derby prep since Keeneland installed Polytrack (save for an obviously-prepping Street Sense), and many knock the Santa Anita Derby for the same reason. If you throw out the Wood as well, what's left?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Mike Gill obviously sabotaged Eightyfiveinafifty....

Isn't it clear that he slipped in faulty equipment which HE KNEW would break RIGHT AWAY - and he boxed the remaining four horses in the field UNTIL THE COWS COME HOME and the man CLEANED UP at the betting windows.

This man almost KILLED another jockey and he MUST be stopped NOW!!

Putting a rider and horses life in danger just to plaster a trifecta ... outrageous.