No Middle Class Tax Hikes?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Ah, yes, but the poll I posted wasn't from or by DailyKos, was it?

No the quotes were from Mr Kos.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

note to self....do not google coach references at work.

Naw, do him the favor, he craves the attention

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I know you dont like McCain.. but I really do (except his homophobic attitude bothers me..) like McCain, and I liked him when I lived in Arizona.

I had planned to vote for McCain for two years. But then, they picked Palin.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Is that really any different than any other politician?

Yeah. Politicians do differ. Gotta read the fine print, and find your priorities.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Naw, I'm talking about how the GOP needed the religious right for wins the last 10 years - how Bush got elected, etc. They needed it for McCain, it was the only reason Palin was on the ticket. The GOP is not damping down the religious right in the least. It's about all they have left of their party.

They havent done too bad lately for a party that you keep inferring to as dead.

But you are correct in they have pandered too much to the far right. Once they figure out the RR is voting for them anyway and follow the Scott Brown Model, the dems will get routed.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah right. I'm sure the GOP tried to get Clinton impeached because he was white. And if you were considered a conservative on this board you would regularly be skewed as a racist.

I don't remember them doing (to Clinton) all this stuff you see here:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...ist&FORM=BIFD#

http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...eb&fr=chr-yie8

http://images.google.com/images?q=ob...N&hl=en&tab=wi

I have to disagree, n' say a lot of it's racist. I don't think the typical Conservative is involved with it, but they are not speaking out strongly against it. They quietly tolerate it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

He's 90% Bullshit. Some of the others are only 20% Bullshit. Evan Bayh is almost 100% Bullshit. He only believes in Evan. He's a Big-H HO.

Serious - is Evan a combover, or a bad toupee? I really can't tell?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I had planned to vote for McCain for two years. But then, they picked Palin.

You keep saying that you were a Republican, yet you have posted 3000 consecutive posts without saying one nice thing about any member of the GOP? You have adopted the entire Obama agenda pretty much verbatim despite few of the philosophies being something that a longtime member of the GOP would agree with. You routinely savage Palin and use her to knock the GOP despite her no longer having an affiliation with the party. You go apeshit on McCain for supposedly reversing positions yet you swoon over Obama who has reversed positions on any number of issues.

Then you go and say you were ready to vote for a guy who campaigned against a great deal of your stated positions simply because you didnt care for his running mate?



ok

[SCUDSBROTHER]

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2008/10/...obamas-mother/

Maybe they did this sort of stuff to Clinton. I missed it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I don't remember them doing (to Clinton) all this stuff you see here:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...ist&FORM=BIFD#

http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...eb&fr=chr-yie8

http://images.google.com/images?q=ob...N&hl=en&tab=wi

I have to disagree, n' say a lot of it's racist. I don't think the typical Conservative is involved with it, but they are not speaking out strongly against it. They quietly tolerate it.

C'mon. If they had photoshop back then he would have got it too. Just look at some of the stuff printed about Bush. I dont like Obama because I dont agree with his politics. A lot of people think the same. His race is really not a factor for most. I would have been against the green phoney(Gore) or that stiff (Kerry) and they are both lilly white.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...t&sp=3&sc=3-8#

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...a&sp=4&sc=7-7#

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your obscession is troubling.
Verbal violence? Go to a Rangers game with an Islanders jersey on and you will see verbal violence.
The Democrats are still the league leaders in hate speech. What was said about Bush 2 far trumps anything Palin has said.

She works for Fox News, you really think she is hurting for cash? You know what they pay those guys?

Sigh .... your debate methodology is so predictable:

1) First attack the other poster personally ("your obscession (sic)... "
2) Change the subject to something else and create a straw man ("go to a Rangers' game ..." )
3) Change the subject again, second straw man, and go on the attack for distraction ("The Dems are league leaders ... ")

My post was about Sarah Palin. Care to discuss the qualities of Sarah Palin as the leader of the free world?

My obscession (sic) is fear for our country. This complete idiot was a candidate for Vice President of this country.

If you think the Dems are the league leaders in hate speech, I suggest you get out in the real world. No, the Dem Presidential tickets did NOT say the same things about Bush that Palin said about Obama.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You keep saying that you were a Republican, yet you have posted 3000 consecutive posts without saying one nice thing about any member of the GOP?

Apparently you don't read very well.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Riot

Serious - is Evan a combover, or a bad toupee? I really can't tell?

That's Indiana. That's what that mess is.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No the quotes were from Mr Kos.

So what? Ignore it. The quotes were not the point. Just read the poll results. Objective, respected, professional polling org.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They havent done too bad lately for a party that you keep inferring to as dead.

But you are correct in they have pandered too much to the far right. Once they figure out the RR is voting for them anyway and follow the Scott Brown Model, the dems will get routed.

No, I fear they are dead, Chuck. They have done badly. They lost the NY 23rd Congressional seat, a seat that hasn't been Dem for 40 years?

The GOP didn't even support Scott Brown. He was on his own. He ran against a rock, a nothing. He ran a brilliant campaign, I give him great credit for that - he's really a very moderate guy (pro-choice, voted yes to Mass healthcare, etc) who didn't campaign as a Republican at all (it was not mentioned in any of his ads), and who campaigned essentially on two inflammatory hot button issues. And notice that since he's been on the national scene, he hasn't made much commitment one way or the other.

The GOP didn't really win Mass as much as the Dems lost it by lack of participation (and deserved the loss). In other words, I can't read Mass as a massive GOP resurgence.

But you are correct in they have pandered too much to the far right. Once they figure out the RR is voting for them anyway and follow the Scott Brown Model, the dems will get routed.

I think alot of the RR won't vote for a GOP if a Tea Party candidate is available. That's how NY 23rd was lost - split vote Teabag and GOP, the Dem won clearly.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

C'mon. If they had photoshop back then he would have got it too. Just look at some of the stuff printed about Bush. I dont like Obama because I dont agree with his politics. A lot of people think the same. His race is really not a factor for most. I would have been against the green phoney(Gore) or that stiff (Kerry) and they are both lilly white.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...t&sp=3&sc=3-8#

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...a&sp=4&sc=7-7#

Wouldn't you think most of this was done because of political ideology?
I don't think showing OBAMA WITH A BONE THROUGH HIS NOSE IS SIMPLY DONE BECAUSE OF POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Sigh .... your debate methodology is so predictable:

1) First attack the other poster personally ("your obscession (sic)... "
2) Change the subject to something else and create a straw man ("go to a Rangers' game ..." )
3) Change the subject again, second straw man, and go on the attack for distraction ("The Dems are league leaders ... ")

My post was about Sarah Palin. Care to discuss the qualities of Sarah Palin as the leader of the free world?

My obscession (sic) is fear for our country. This complete idiot was a candidate for Vice President of this country.

If you think the Dems are the league leaders in hate speech, I suggest you get out in the real world. No, the Dem Presidential tickets did NOT say the same things about Bush that Palin said about Obama.

C'mon you start a Palin thread at ever shred of Palin news and your extreme hatred for her is strange.
2) That was called a joke. You know making fun of your fear of "verbal violence"
3) The Dems are far more accomplished at hate speech which is a topic YOU brought up in your post.

Discussing Sarah Palin as leader of the free world is not something that you do. You simply savage her at every occasion which is fine but hardly discussion worthy. You take offense at my characterization of you as being obcessed with palin but how exactly is that an insult? You are.

As far as the hate speech, Is the real world now only characterized by what is said by politicians running for office? The real hate spewed against Bush may never be topped.

And for your information a complete idiot is presently vice president of our country.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Apparently you don't read very well.

Perhaps but i can read between the lines

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

So what? Ignore it. The quotes were not the point. Just read the poll results. Objective, respected, professional polling org.

You say this as though you are an authority on pollsters...