No Middle Class Tax Hikes?

[randallscott35]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=a4ri_.MXxMHs

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=a4ri_.MXxMHs

Bloomberg site = non-starter.... WSJ = non-starter.... Fox News = non-starter.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Bloomberg site = non-starter.... WSJ = non-starter.... Fox News = non-starter.

Ok Scuds, this is a op-ed by the way but ok.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Ok Scuds, this is a op-ed by the way but ok.

Those 3 sites are foul. It's Conservative reading. How can you gloss over that ? Here..Let me edit the articles down (almost all the stuff that comes from those sites.)

OBA FKN IT UP THIS WAY!
OBA FKN IT UP THAT WAY!
OBA FKN IT UP A NEW WAY!
OBA A COLOSSAL FK UP!

Laugh, but it's true. What the lady say there? OBA FKN IT UP.... Huge news.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Ok Scuds, this is a op-ed by the way but ok.

Seriously why even bother? I get knocked for posting op-ed pieces despite the forum supposedly being a place to share opinions. Not to mention a great deal of the lefties here simply dismiss a link that is from a source they deem is too conservative. They dont bother to even read them and rarely offer any substantive rebuttal. What you posted was a pretty interesting take on what is going on using facts and figures and stating the holes in what the govt is feeding us in a fairly clearcut manner. But the chances that one person offers a serious opinion on why they disagree without calling the source or writer biased or an idiot is nil.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Seriously why even bother? I get knocked for posting op-ed pieces despite the forum supposedly being a place to share opinions. Not to mention a great deal of the lefties here simply dismiss a link that is from a source they deem is too conservative. They dont bother to even read them and rarely offer any substantive rebuttal. What you posted was a pretty interesting take on what is going on using facts and figures and stating the holes in what the govt is feeding us in a fairly clearcut manner. But the chances that one person offers a serious opinion on why they disagree without calling the source or writer biased or an idiot is nil.

also very true.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=a4ri_.MXxMHs

Lets call it like it is. Obama knows it. Dems know it and Cons know it but no one dares touch it.

My inner conservative comes out and rears its ugly head every now and then. Entitlement spending is killing us and is getting worse every day. You want to fix the budget? Fix the entitlements.

Now can Obama do it? NO...conservatives will kill him just like democrats killed Bush when he made a feeble stab at it and so on and so on.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Lets call it like it is. Obama knows it. Dems know it and Cons know it but no one dares touch it.

My inner conservative comes out and rears its ugly head every now and then. Entitlement spending is killing us and is getting worse every day. You want to fix the budget? Fix the entitlements.

Now can Obama do it? NO...conservatives will kill him just like democrats killed Bush when he made a feeble stab at it and so on and so on.

are you kidding me? His healthcare bill would be the biggest entitlement ever. His aunt has lived solely on entitlements. A good portion of his political base live off entitlements. His plans from education to transportation to global warming all involve entitlements. Not all his fault though, he comes from entitlement world.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

are you kidding me? His healthcare bill would be the biggest entitlement ever. His aunt has lived solely on entitlements. A good portion of his political base live off entitlements. His plans from education to transportation to global warming all involve entitlements. Not all his fault though, he comes from entitlement world.

Social Security, medicaid and medicare are the biggest entitlements. There aren't a bunch of republicans in that camp?

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Social Security, medicaid and medicare are the biggest entitlements. There aren't a bunch of republicans in that camp?

Anxious Mitch has his head up Humana's ass sideways.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Social Security, medicaid and medicare are the biggest entitlements. There aren't a bunch of republicans in that camp?

I would argue Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme but totally agree on medicaid and medicare and the abuses they have provided.

[joeydb]

END the entitlements. There, I said it. They were never sustainable. There is truly be no such thing as an "entitlement", in spite of the frequency and energy with which that political term has been used. You are not entitled to anyone else's money but your own.

Sunset the social security program. Nobody is getting any "yield" on this "retirement program". You get less money than what you put in, if and when the government sees fit to pay you. I'm at the age where I'm not likely to see a dime from it, yet I'm forced to pay the FICA line item out of my check.

It's time to end the supremacy of the non-contributor. If you don't work, then you can't expect to live like you do work. Keep unemployment compensation and make real statistics on what the TRUE unemployment numbers are. At least that requires that we keep looking for jobs.

Everything, every budget entry: social programs, military spending, all of it must be eligible to be slashed. Foreign aid should become a thing of the past -- we can't afford it any more, and borrowing money from China to give to Haiti or any other country is ridiculous. And let's start calling in the loans we gave others, just like China expects us to pay up.

Liberalism is an obsolete anachronism that was a nuisance infection to the body that is the United States, and we have allowed it to grow to the point where it is life threatening.

The national debt MUST be REPAID. That's the only way to truly preserve the individual freedoms we have. Debtors are never free -- they are always beholden to their creditors -- until the debt is paid off.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

well why dont we collect debts that are owed from other countrys to u.s.
trillions are in the mix.we need to look out for no 1 at some point.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

END the entitlements. There, I said it. They were never sustainable. There is truly be no such thing as an "entitlement", in spite of the frequency and energy with which that political term has been used. You are not entitled to anyone else's money but your own.

Sunset the social security program. Nobody is getting any "yield" on this "retirement program". You get less money than what you put in, if and when the government sees fit to pay you. I'm at the age where I'm not likely to see a dime from it, yet I'm forced to pay the FICA line item out of my check.

It's time to end the supremacy of the non-contributor. If you don't work, then you can't expect to live like you do work. Keep unemployment compensation and make real statistics on what the TRUE unemployment numbers are. At least that requires that we keep looking for jobs.

Everything, every budget entry: social programs, military spending, all of it must be eligible to be slashed. Foreign aid should become a thing of the past -- we can't afford it any more, and borrowing money from China to give to Haiti or any other country is ridiculous. And let's start calling in the loans we gave others, just like China expects us to pay up.

Liberalism is an obsolete anachronism that was a nuisance infection to the body that is the United States, and we have allowed it to grow to the point where it is life threatening.

The national debt MUST be REPAID. That's the only way to truly preserve the individual freedoms we have. Debtors are never free -- they are always beholden to their creditors -- until the debt is paid off.

I agree. As for other posts where this one is a secret dem or rep-keep in mind they are pols first last and always. They must pick a party for the money, not because of ideology

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Lets call it like it is. Obama knows it. Dems know it and Cons know it but no one dares touch it.

My inner conservative comes out and rears its ugly head every now and then. Entitlement spending is killing us and is getting worse every day. You want to fix the budget? Fix the entitlements.

Now can Obama do it? NO...conservatives will kill him just like democrats killed Bush when he made a feeble stab at it and so on and so on.

yes it was very feeble. He was also very feeble when he wanted to fix fanny mae and freddy mac. I've often felt that Bush was a dem.