The Michael Gill/Penn National Riders Saga

[Sightseek]

Penn accepted entries by Gill for Wednesday, they will meet on Saturday to review the results of the necropsies of Melodeeman and Laughing Moon. Penn has asked for an opinion from the PA Racing Commission.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/110451.html

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Penn accepted entries by Gill for Wednesday, they will meet on Saturday to review the results of the necropsies of Melodeeman and Laughing Moon. Penn has asked for an opinion from the PA Racing Commission.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/110451.html

If anyone didnt get a chance to hear Byk and Black on the subject yesterday please try to.

Byk was trying to defend the process(to his credit) and Black wanted nothing of it.. Steve I dont think the guy who can have a 1100lb animal fall on him, gives a crap about Due Process (not the farm/stable)..It was good radio Byk trying to enlighten Black on being fair and Black telling him to "have a nice day" with a large finger pointing in the air!

Originally Posted by freddymo

If anyone didnt get a chance to hear Byk and Black on the subject yesterday please try to.

Byk was trying to defend the process(to his credit) and Black wanted nothing of it.. Steve I dont think the guy who can have a 1100lb animal fall on him, gives a crap about Due Process (not the farm/stable)..It was good radio Byk trying to enlighten Black on being fair and Black telling him to "have a nice day" with a large finger pointing in the air!

I'm sure Anthony Black is a nice guy but if he were put into any job where a decision would be made on someones livelihood then chances are he would be fired in two days or dead.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'm sure Anthony Black is a nice guy but if he were put into any job where a decision would be made on someones livelihood then chances are he would be fired in two days or dead.

He is 60 has battled substance abuse(who isn't) and is almost done.. Byk tried to have him be rational but to the guys credit he basically didnt want to hear it. Byk was 100% correct while not defending SWgILL he realized the process was unfair..

[Patrick333]

Tony Black is probably thinking that the same "due process" that applied to the jockeys that were ruled off for alleged race fixing a few years ago should apply to Gill.

[jms62]

Black always has Blinkers on when it comes to discussions involving Jocks. His conversations with Steve about Jocks being employees rather than independent contractors awhile back comes to mind.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Patrick333

Tony Black is probably thinking that the same "due process" that applied to the jockeys that were ruled off for alleged race fixing a few years ago should apply to Gill.

The same thing kind of applies to Kirk Ziadie. I understand he has more than a few bad tests in Florida but he was pretty much just told to remove his horses from the backside and was no longer wanted at Calder. I don't believe there was a specific reason given...just a so called "Management Decision".

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

The same thing kind of applies to Kirk Ziadie. I understand he has more than a few bad tests in Florida but he was pretty much just told to remove his horses from the backside and was no longer wanted at Calder. I don't believe there was a specific reason given...just a so called "Management Decision".

Calder did Ziade a favor by not giving a reason.

You pretty much sign your rights away when you sign your stall application. Trainers know that and owners should as well.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Patrick333

Tony Black is probably thinking that the same "due process" that applied to the jockeys that were ruled off for alleged race fixing a few years ago should apply to Gill.

Exactly - Tony is 100% correct IMO. These people, whether they are jocks, trainers, agents, or owners have no guarantee of employment from the track, are not employees of the track, and are not entitled to any "due process".

They use the track to make a living, and have no direct responsibility for their actions with regard to the liability they cause the track owners due to their irresponsible actions.

Penn Nat or any other track for that matter can remove anyone they want for any reason they want when they feel that said person represents a threat to the track or it's business. Period. It isn't really a discussion.

[Duvalier]

That's what I was wondering about. Couldn't Penn National itself just do what both Calder and Tampa did in the above examples? Just claim it as a management or business decision. No explanation...you have 72 hours to be off the grounds.

[MISTERGEE]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Penn accepted entries by Gill for Wednesday, they will meet on Saturday to review the results of the necropsies of Melodeeman and Laughing Moon. Penn has asked for an opinion from the PA Racing Commission.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/110451.html

almost all entries for now say "no rider" and Gill horses have a jock named Jose Baez (23-0-0-0)

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

almost all entries for now say "no rider" and Gill horses have a jock named Jose Baez (23-0-0-0)

Must have paid him off,eh?