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Old 01-28-2010, 12:30 PM
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That was strange. Gloria De Campeo always up in the front rank, nothing really seems to be closing from behind and then Forgotten Voice comes from another country.

Midshipman will struggle to win in the top company based on that. The winner usually improves massive amounts on his first run of the Carnival and It's now hard to envisage Midshipman beating that rival when they meet under the same conditions again.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:56 PM
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yep was a strange race to me - it may be that Gloria is a little but more forward this year than other years. and i thought they crawled home. Where to go next with Midshipman. If I was in charge, Id drop him down to 6f and try his hand at sprinting. He does have enough pace I think.
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:07 PM
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yep was a strange race to me - it may be that Gloria is a little but more forward this year than other years. and i thought they crawled home. Where to go next with Midshipman. If I was in charge, Id drop him down to 6f and try his hand at sprinting. He does have enough pace I think.
That's what I was wondering.

I can't see him beating Gloria over this trip. Maybe he'll improve for the run? But it didn't look like it was fitness that was the issue today.

One horse, which did look badly in need of the run was Bab Al Salam, although I thought Frankie gave him a shocker after being in a good position early, he let him drift back amongst horses and then was never likely to get back into the race.

Tartan Gigha is definitely one for my virtual notebook, and ofcourse Forgotten Voice, but he is likely to be underpriced next time after that performance.

Raihana is destined for the top over the Carnival, had things against her today and still ran out a cosy winner. De Kock rarely tells lies and I've never heard him speak so confidently about a horse before this one.
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That was strange. Gloria De Campeo always up in the front rank, nothing really seems to be closing from behind and then Forgotten Voice comes from another country.

Midshipman will struggle to win in the top company based on that. The winner usually improves massive amounts on his first run of the Carnival and It's now hard to envisage Midshipman beating that rival when they meet under the same conditions again.
Midshipman probably needs his Lasix.

US race commentators were noting how long the stretch is, compared to the US tracks, which tend to be around 1000-1100 feet, or around 333 yards, probably around 310 meters, 1.6f. This includes the 9f and 12f tracks, but not 8f tracks Churchill Downs (1234 ft) and Fair Grounds (1346 ft.). South American dirt competitors normally run on home straights twice as long.
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:19 PM
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Midshipman probably needs his Lasix.

US race commentators were noting how long the stretch is, compared to the US tracks, which tend to be around 1000-1100 feet, or around 333 yards, probably around 310 meters, 1.6f. This includes the 9f and 12f tracks, but not 8f tracks Churchill Downs (1234 ft) and Fair Grounds (1346 ft.). South American dirt competitors normally run on home straights twice as long.
I was told the straight was shorter than that of Santa Anita's?
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Leahurst wins after being punted all day long. Money flooded in for this horse in the bookies in Newmarket today......... They knew!
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Ya know, I kinda like it when the boys in blue have bad days in Dubai (even though I thought they'd do well today).

After Simon (ummmmmmmm, what's this) Crisford said the horses were all in great form, better than previous years..............

Got to love him, and his clueless ways.
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Leahurst wins after being punted all day long. Money flooded in for this horse in the bookies in Newmarket today......... They knew!
yep it reminded of Presvis last year - everybody was on him and knew he wouldnt be beaten.
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yep it reminded of Presvis last year - everybody was on him and knew he wouldnt be beaten.
I left the meeting alone from a punting point of view today, and probably will next time, too. However, the lads at Noseda's certainly didn't.

A quote came out in the bookies about the horse earlier today while I was watching a couple of races "2's?..... you'll be sorry" No idea who he was, or the amount he had on, but sounds like plenty knew.
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Definitely longer than Santa Anita - it is more than 2 furlongs, closer to 450 meters.
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I noticed the name Wigberto Ramos with a few mounts. Is that the same jock who rode in S. Fla about 20-25 yrs ago?
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also Luis Jurado was riding well at Calder, does he get any live mounts over there?
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I noticed the name Wigberto Ramos with a few mounts. Is that the same jock who rode in S. Fla about 20-25 yrs ago?
Yes, and it wasn't that long ago. He and Jurado ride for King Abdullah in Saudi Arabia.
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Can somebody post the PPs when they are up for Dubai. I will put on another clinic in international handicapping.
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