Trainers Love the New Track at Hollywood

[TheSpyder]

WHen does Holywood start?

[repent]

yeah,
im sure they are going to love it 20 years from now when everyone within 20 miles of HolyPark is wasting away due to various respiratory diseases.

totally ridiculous.

dirt was good eough for Man O War, but somehow a bunch of Swiss Yoedler horses requiere a special artificial surface.
total bs.

f*ck you socal racing commision and f*ck everyone who supports the implementation of that crap at North American racetracks.

and dont give me that line about the safety of the horses.
if anyone gave 2 sh*ts about the safety of the horses, we would be running exclusively on turf.
Im not advocating that b/c personally, i really dont care about the safety of the horses.
But they dont give a damn about the safety of the horses either.
its just a politically correct excuse they are giving the public so they can install this crap without be scrutinized.

f*ck the track of lakes and flowers or whatever they call themselves.
this is crap.
they took the one legitimate track in socal and ruined it.
Los Al better not install that crap or I am going to have nothing to play at night.

Repent

[repent]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Wow, tough day? I'll tell you, your "I really don't care about the safety of horses" comment makes me want to puke. What are you doing here then? Go somewhere else.

f*ck you go somewhere else.

I like horse racing.
I really dont feel one way or the other about horses themselves.

I'll give an example.
one of my favorite racehorses of all time was Barbaro.
everyone from the ESPN board knows I was on him from day 1 as a 2YO.
made a ton of money on him.

but the minute his racing career was over, I lost any and all intrest in him aside from his possible stud career.
the one and only thing that saddened me about his injury in the Preakness was the fact that I had a huge win bet on him and I obviously did not cash.


Repent

[GPK]

Originally Posted by repent

f*ck you go somewhere else.

I like horse racing.
I really dont feel one way or the other about horses themselves.

I'll give an example.
one of my favorite racehorses of all time was Barbaro.
everyone from the ESPN board knows I was on him from day 1 as a 2YO.
made a ton of money on him.

but the minute his racing career was over, I lost any and all intrest in him aside from his possible stud career.
the one and only thing that saddened me about his injury in the Preakness was the fact that I had a huge win bet on him and I obviously did not cash.


Repent

LOL...Repent is back. Good to see you bro.

Kev

[repent]

Originally Posted by GPK

LOL...Repent is back. Good to see you bro.

Kev

hey what up Kev.


good to see you.

who is this DaHoss guy?
wanting to run up and feed a horse carrot is not an essential desire one must have to like and appreciate the sport of horse racing.
whatever..

hey Kev,
this is as good of place as any to tell you that you were completely right and I totally wrong about English Channel.
what a racehorse.
he is America's best turf horse.

Repent

[GPK]

Originally Posted by repent

hey what up Kev.


good to see you.

who is this DaHoss guy?
wanting to run up and feed a horse carrot is not an essential desire one must have to like and appreciate the sport of horse racing.
whatever..

hey Kev,
this is as good of place as any to tell you that you were completely right and I totally wrong about English Channel.
what a racehorse.
he is America's best turf horse.

Repent

Well....I am normally good for being right about one or two things a year.

He has turned into a very good racehorse...

I trust things are well for you?

[repent]

Originally Posted by GPK

Well....I am normally good for being right about one or two things a year.

He has turned into a very good racehorse...

I trust things are well for you?

yeah,
things are good.
back in TX now.

working a lot but at least I closer to friends and family than I was before.
besides the Astros sucking, things are pretty good.


Repent

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GPK

Well....I am normally good for being right about one or two things a year.

He has turned into a very good racehorse...

I trust things are well for you?

Kev, You and I are both fans of English Channel. As you know, I tried to buy him before anyone had heard of him. I tried to buy him back when he was only an allowance horse. Even though we are both fans of the horse, you know as well as I do that he's not the best turf horse in the country. He just ran 4th in two of his last three races. He didn't have any real excuse in either race. He would have obviously liked a little more pace in his last race but you can't use that as an excuse because he was actually losing ground in the stretch. As big a fan as youa re of the horse, I'm sure you would be the first to admit that he's not the best turf horse in the country right now.

[repent]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

But if you like, and appreciate something, how do you not care about the parcipitants?

I dont care about their health or well being.
i did not say I dont care about them.
I certainly care about how fast they run and their pari-mutuel wagering price.

another analogy.
i like film.
i like watching Ed Norton or Natalie Portman act on film.
But I dont give a damn about their health, happiness, or general well being in real life.
they can live or die. makes no difference to me.



Repent

[Pointg5]

Maybe I have been a little hard on this Poly track, I saw they ran 1:08 yesterday at Turfway, maybe they are getting it right, but I have to wonder 1:08 is still damn fast and just because it's on Poly, does it still not take as much out of a horse, because it's not on a packed surface...

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Wow, tough day? I'll tell you, your "I really don't care about the safety of horses" comment makes me want to puke. What are you doing here then? Go somewhere else.

Never take anything Repent says seriously. He just likes to get people riled up. He says things that are so absurd that there is no rhyme or reason to most of it. He had a beautiful quote just yesterday. He said that The Tin Man has no chance in the BC turf because the horse ran lousy in the BC Turf back in 2003 and he was a better horse back then. In 2003, he went into the race off a 7th place finish in the Arlington Million and a 6th place finish in the Jim Murray. This year the horse goes into the race off a win in the Arlington Million and a win in the American Handicap. The horse has made $2 million this year. In 2003, the horse made about $200,000. Yet Repent says the horse was better in 2003. LOL.

If you are looking for logic in his posts, you are out of luck.

[repent]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Never take anything Repent says seriously. He just likes to get people riled up. He says things that are so absurd that there is no rhyme or reason to most of it. He had a beautiful quote just yesterday. He said that The Tin Man has no chance in the BC turf because the horse ran lousy in the BC Turf back in 2003 and he was a better horse back then. In 2003, he went into the race off a 7th place finish in the Arlington Million and a 6th place finish in the Jim Murray. This year the horse goes into the race off a win in the Arlington Million and a win in the American Handicap. The horse has made $2 million this year. In 2003, the horse made about $200,000. Yet Repent says the horse was better in 2003. LOL.

If you are looking for logic in his posts, you are out of luck.

WRONG

you are misquoting me dude.

I never mentioned the year 2003.

I said he had been better in the past and been beaten in the BC Turf.
anyone with any historical knowledge of US turf racing knows the he was in better form in 2002.
won the American Handicap and the Hirsch Memorial that year.
was allowed to set slow fractions in the BC Turf at Arlington and still could only manage a 4th place finish in a somewhat weak running of the race.

and now you think he is going to run with horses like Hurrican Run, Cacique and English Channel?

you are out of your mind.

if you are going to quote me, at least be accurate.


Repent

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by repent

WRONG

you are misquoting me dude.

I never mentioned the year 2003.

I said he had been better in the past and been beaten in the BC Turf.
anyone with any historical knowledge of US turf racing knows the he was in better form in 2002.
won the American Handicap and the Hirsch Memorial that year.
was allowed to set slow fractions in the BC Turf at Arlington and still could only manage a 4th place finish in a somewhat weak running of the race.

and now you think he is going to run with horses like Hurrican Run, Cacique and English Channel?

you are out of your mind.

if you are going to quote me, at least be accurate.


Repent

I thought you were talking about the last time he ran in the BC Turf which was in 2003. Now I realize you were talking about 2002. Fair enough.

I still don't think it's logical to handicap the horse based on what he did 4 year ago. I think what he's done this year is a little more relevant. He's run 5 times this year and he's won 4 out of 5. His only lost was his 2nd place finish in the $5 million Dubai race to David Junior. I think he is coming into the race this year with pretty good credentials running 2nd in that $5 million race and winning the Arlington Million.

I'm not saying he's going to win the race this year, but he is ceratinly a legitimate contender. He's the best turf horse in the country right now. I do think he's probably a little better horse at 1 1/4 miles.

[repent]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I thought you were talking about the last time he ran in the BC Turf which was in 2003. Now I realize you were talking about 2002. Fair enough.

I still don't think it's logical to handicap the horse based on what he did 4 year ago. I think what he's done this year is a little more relevant. He's run 5 times this year and he's won 4 out of 5. His only lost was his 2nd place finish in the $5 million Dubai race to David Junior. I think he is coming into the race this year with pretty good credentials running 2nd in that $5 million race and winning the Arlington Million.

I'm not saying he's going to win the race this year, but he is ceratinly a legitimate contender. He's the best turf horse in the country right now. I do think he's probably a little better horse at 1 1/4 miles.

Im not saying what he did 3 or 4 years ago is a handicapping tool,
Im just saying he was a better horse in the past and lost in what was a weaker field with easier circumstances than what he will face on Nov 4 at CD.

hes not all that great at 12 and the race in Dubai was barely over a mile.

if you are impressed by that Arl Million race, then good luck to you.
those were just plain stupid fractions.



Repent

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by repent

those were just plain stupid fractions.



Repent

that's true...but i can never forget war emblems preakness. everyone knew what he had done to win the derby...and then they watched him go out and do it again in md. ooops.

thing is, tin man could easily do it again. run him down early, wear him out, and you might find yourself backing up as well late.