Nice touch by Gulfstream

Kasept · #1 01-15-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Isn't that a Racing and Wagering board issue?

Yes.

freddymo · #2 01-15-2010, 10:27 AM

When NYRA did really suck I never remember them getting Sh.t ..Now that they have made great strides the get dogged ..I dont get it

parsixfarms · #3 01-15-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

When NYRA did really suck I never remember them getting Sh.t ..Now that they have made great strides the get dogged ..I dont get it

I'm not anti-NYRA; I just don't understand their thinking on this issue.

parsixfarms · #4 01-15-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Yes.

How so? Finger Lakes allows .50 pic-4s, and all the OTBs and Saratoga Harness allow the fractional wagering on simulcast tracks.

Kasept · #5 01-15-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

How so? Finger Lakes allows .50 pic-4s, and all the OTBs and Saratoga Harness allow the fractional wagering on simulcast tracks.

Still need to have changes like that rubber-stamped by RWB. Though it seems it would be less of an issue now than it used to be...

parsixfarms · #6 01-15-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Still need to have changes like that rubber-stamped by RWB. Though it seems it would be less of an issue now than it used to be...

Is that NYRA has made such a request of NYSWRB that has not been acted upon? Or is it that NYRA has made a business decision to not allow their patrons to make fractional wagers (except for the dime supers)?

Kasept · #7 01-15-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Is that NYRA has made such a request of NYSWRB that has not been acted upon? Or is it that NYRA has made a business decision to not allow their patrons to make fractional wagers (except for the dime supers)?

I think it's been discussed. I know they had to push for a while to get the dime supers through, as well as field size minimums in supers.

parsixfarms · #8 01-15-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

I think it's been discussed. I know they had to push for a while to get the dime supers through, as well as field size minimums in supers.

The question is whether NYRA has asked permission to do adopt .50 pic-4s, but NYSRWB has prevented them from enacting it? I doubt it. They were among the last to adopt the dime supers. There are many things that can be blamed on the NYSRWB, I don't think this is one of them.

johnny pinwheel · #9 01-15-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

The question is whether NYRA has asked permission to do adopt .50 pic-4s, but NYSRWB has prevented them from enacting it? I doubt it. They were among the last to adopt the dime supers. There are many things that can be blamed on the NYSRWB, I don't think this is one of them.

you are missing the point, to get anything done here...well, its like building the great pyramids...it takes generations..........even if nyra tried, somehow there would be hemming and hawing or some blow hard in the way. empire state, yup, its an empire alright....lol

Sightseek · #10 01-20-2010, 09:41 PM

They added a youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/gulfstreamparkracing

freddymo · #11 01-15-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

How so? Finger Lakes allows .50 pic-4s, and all the OTBs and Saratoga Harness allow the fractional wagering on simulcast tracks.

It's the best racing in the country from 4/15 thru 11/1.. It is suppose to attract a bettor willing to play a buck on a Pik 4?

parsixfarms · #12 01-15-2010, 10:43 AM

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It's the best racing in the country from 4/15 thru 11/1.. It is suppose to attract a bettor willing to play a buck on a Pik 4?

Come on, that's a false argument. The issue for the typical player on these types of wagers is more about how much spread they can get from his or her bankroll. And by refusing to allow fractional wagers on simulcasts, NYRA is only driving that play elsewhere.

freddymo · #13 01-15-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Come on, that's a false argument. The issue for the typical player on these types of wagers is more about how much spread they can get from his or her bankroll. And by refusing to allow fractional wagers on simulcasts, NYRA is only driving that play elsewhere.

So were does it end .25 .10 .05?

ateamstupid · #14 01-15-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

So were does it end .25 .10 .05?

That's not the point, we'll cross that bridge if we come to it, but with damn near every track offering $.50 Pick 4s and their popularity increasing every day, NYRA looks like a dinosaur for not even handling them on simulcast tracks. I'm a big NYRA fan but on this issue it's silly how late they are.

johnny pinwheel · #15 01-15-2010, 11:10 AM

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That's not the point, we'll cross that bridge if we come to it, but with damn near every track offering $.50 Pick 4s and their popularity increasing every day, NYRA looks like a dinosaur for not even handling them on simulcast tracks. I'm a big NYRA fan but on this issue it's silly how late they are.

i agree. i did not even like pick 4's, i do now. same with pick 6's, you might as well be playing the lotto, if you don't have partners. the 50 cent bet will raise the pools and handle. i think nyra is crazy to say, "we are hurting for money but a new product thats popular, well, we don't have time for it". those bets are bang for the buck, during tough times ...it will help them. during saratoga that 50 cent pick 4 would be a great bet.!!!!! look at what these things are paying at gulfstream!

hockey2315 · #16 01-15-2010, 11:11 AM

I have my own personal axe to grind with the current NYRA regime and I'd love to blame them for any and all flaws in their product, but so many of their current flaws have to do with government involvement. . . I'm sure that's why they haven't offered $0.50 Pk4s. . . every little thing has to get past the wagering board.

philcski · #17 01-20-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

So were does it end .25 .10 .05?

What would be so bad about dime pick 4's? Seriously, any reductions in minimum betsize has been proven to be a winning strategy. Most of all, it helps bettors avoid tax problems and allows more creative structuring of tickets.

hockey2315 · #18 01-20-2010, 07:03 PM

I'm all for avoiding ridiculous/unfair taxes, but a 10-cent pk4 just doesn't seem practical.

ateamstupid · #19 01-15-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

It's the best racing in the country from 4/15 thru 11/1.. It is suppose to attract a bettor willing to play a buck on a Pik 4?

That's stupid. Why do they have dime supers then?