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Old 09-23-2006, 05:34 PM
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No chit ... thought my mom was driving LR for a moment there. Don't like riding with her and I'm guessing the ride with McKee is just as scary.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:36 PM
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As soon as I saw the hammer lock on LR, I said hes screwed. WTF was McKee doing? That horse should have won today...
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:39 PM
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The best horse won. LR can't rate and SC can. The jockey wins 90% of the time with the horse but when he loses it is his fault. Ever think the Derby horses and SC are faster. LR has never been that fast.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:43 PM
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Blame the trainer. The horse wont rate. The only jockey that I would use on Lawyer Ron is P Val. He would sit on him like a sack of potato and hang on.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:45 PM
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Blame the trainer. The horse wont rate. The only jockey that I would use on Lawyer Ron is P Val. He would sit on him like a sack of potato and hang on.

Yea but then you would lose all aerodynamics
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:48 PM
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Yea but then you would lose all aerodynamics
I was serious about P val riding LR. You never see him fight a horse to place him, he's real good at not wasting your horse.
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Old 09-23-2006, 08:02 PM
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I was serious about P val riding LR. You never see him fight a horse to place him, he's real good at not wasting your horse.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:44 PM
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The best horse won. LR can't rate and SC can. .
You obviously didn't watch the Rebel S or the St. Louis Derby. Ron rated quite nicely in those races. Even was off the pace until the far turn in the Arkansas Derby. He wouldn't rate today for some reason and his jock tried to MAKE him; always a mistake.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:46 PM
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You obviously didn't watch the Rebel S or the St. Louis Derby. Ron rated quite nicely in those races. Even was off the pace until the far turn in the Arkansas Derby. He wouldn't rate today for some reason and his jock tried to MAKE him; always a mistake.
I agree with you that LR has alot of talent ,but we saw this trend start a Keenland. He wont rate.
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:06 PM
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. Even was off the pace until the far turn in the Arkansas Derby. .
If i remember correctly, in the ARK. Derby, he was off the pace until midway round the CLUBHOUSE turn, and took command at the 6 furlong, and tugged McKee with him. Basically was a carbon copy of the ARk derby today, just didnt win.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:39 PM
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PD is sad. How has this horse dropped so far so fast.

As for McKee ride is was McAweful, although I has SC. Lost several lengths in a toppsy turvy ride.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:45 PM
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PD is sad. How has this horse dropped so far so fast.

As for McKee ride is was McAweful, although I has SC. Lost several lengths in a toppsy turvy ride.
He never was very good. He started his career as a 100k claimer and won against poor west coast compition.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:55 PM
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He never was very good. He started his career as a 100k claimer and won against poor west coast compition.
I am not a fan of PD at all. I never liked him. He never ran in a $100 claimer though.
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Old 09-23-2006, 09:34 PM
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I am not a fan of PD at all. I never liked him. He never ran in a $100 claimer though.
I know he was entered in a maiden 100k claimer, he may of scratched out of the race, but I am pretty sure he ran. It was his first race at Santa Anita. Oh well it really doesn't matter.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:52 PM
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LR actually rated fine in his last race. He came from 7 lengths back that day. I don't know why he was so rank today. I saw the same thing happen to him in another race. I think it was in the Arkansas Derby where McKee slightly asked him going into the first turn just to try to get a slightly better position, and the horse totally took off and dragged him all the way up to the lead.

I guess with this horse you can't ask him until you really want him to run because once you slightly step on the gas, he wants to run off.

If he would have relaxed today, he would have had a good chance to win the race. He just went a little bit too fast. That's not to take anything away from Strong Contender. He ran a good race too.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:55 PM
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LR actually rated fine in his last race. He came from 7 lengths back that day. I don't know why he was so rank today. I saw the same thing happen to him in another race. I think it was in the Arkansas Derby where McKee slightly asked him going into the first turn just to try to get a slightly better position, and the horse totally took off and dragged him all the way up to the lead.

I guess with this horse you can't ask him until you really want him to run because once you slightly step on the gas, he wants to run off.

If he would have relaxed today, he would have had a good chance to win the race. He just went a little bit too fast. That's not to take anything away from Strong Contender. He ran a good race too.
I didn't see his last race. Was he out side of horse with nothing in his face?
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:04 PM
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I like LR, but I don't think he is fast enough to compete at the top level. How about turf>
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:08 PM
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I didn't see his last race. Was he out side of horse with nothing in his face?
I only saw the race once so I can't remember exactly. I think he may have taken a little dirt early on and then swung out on the far turn. I can't remeber if he cricled the field or came between horses. He was way back early. The Form shows he was 5th, 8 lengths back at the first call. At the 2nd call he was 5th, 6 1/2 lengths behind. He was 2nd, a length back at the 3rd call.
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Old 09-23-2006, 08:08 PM
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PD is sad. How has this horse dropped so far so fast.

As for McKee ride is was McAweful, although I has SC. Lost several lengths in a toppsy turvy ride.
With all due respect, PD only had a step to fall down, he was never that good, my opinion
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:38 PM
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Let him run, if he wants to, pinhead! Put 10 lengths on the field and make them come and get you. Won't use up more energy than that wrestling match did. How much was he beaten, a length? Should have had more than that in hand.

Holthus is an old-school guy, you know, loyal to his folks. But there has to be a limit, like when bone-head plays cost the owner a big purse.
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