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Old 01-12-2010, 10:23 AM
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There were 6 horses in the race. He did what he gets paid to do. He was on a horse who many (including myself) thought was extremely overbet, but still very logical and the classiest horse in the race. I think he did a good job but I wont remember this ride 1 week from now.

Ramon is a great rider.
what do you think of the ride in question? whether or not he was a winner , should he have quit riding?
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:33 AM
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what do you think of the ride in question? whether or not he was a winner , should he have quit riding?
I just watched a replay (twice) of this focusing on Western Deed and I dont see how he could have done anything more that would have added value to his job in this instance. 2nd place is as good as he could have gotten and its not like he got nailed for 2nd or even ever made it close for 2nd. I dont have a problem with this. Its no different to me than the ride Chavez gave on Eightfiveinafifty when he stopped urging the horse at the 1/16th pole when he was leading by 15 and still drawing away, winding up winning by 17.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:42 AM
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I just watched a replay (twice) of this focusing on Western Deed and I dont see how he could have done anything more that would have added value to his job in this instance. 2nd place is as good as he could have gotten and its not like he got nailed for 2nd or even ever made it close for 2nd. I dont have a problem with this. Its no different to me than the ride Chavez gave on Eightfiveinafifty when he stopped urging the horse at the 1/16th pole when he was leading by 15 and still drawing away, winding up winning by 17.

but timmy why quit riding when the horse in front of you is going backwards?

even gpk said borel would have ridden the horse out , he still wouldn't have won in gpk's opinion , but explain to me why he would stop trying and in gpk's opinion borel would have kept trying .....shouldn't you always ride out even if the chance to win is less than 10% ????
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:46 AM
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but timmy why quit riding when the horse in front of you is going backwards?

even gpk said borel would have ridden the horse out , he still wouldn't have won in gpk's opinion , but explain to me why he would stop trying and in gpk's opinion borel would have kept trying .....shouldn't you always ride out even if the chance to win is less than 10% ????
I dont agree that the winner was going backwards. The rider knew where the line was and knew he had enough to win the race. Not by a whole lot but a comfortable enough margin. Sure he was getting tired, but there wasnt enough race track left for it to be a concern. I think the chance of him winning this race at this point was a lot lss than 10% and it would have taken a fall down from the winner for him to win, in which case he would have won because he was clear for 2nd. Ramon did his job.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:55 AM
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Marty, Jocks quit riding early every day. I just don't understand why you keep harping on this one particular ride that didn't affect anything. It looked like he stopped with less than 50 yards to go when it was clear he wasn't getting to the winner. Plus he held on to second, so I just don't understand why you keep on harping on this particular ride (other than having a beef with Dominguez).
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:57 AM
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Marty, Jocks quit riding early every day. I just don't understand why you keep harping on this one particular ride that didn't affect anything. It looked like he stopped with less than 50 yards to go when it was clear he wasn't getting to the winner. Plus he held on to second, so I just don't understand why you keep on harping on this particular ride (other than having a beef with Dominguez).

i had let it go , someone with a brain decided to ressurect it this am
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:09 AM
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I kind of feel like as long as the guy doesnt cost the horse the best possible place finish, I could care less about his lack of trying or body language. I also never understood everybody's beef with jockey's who pump their fist a few yards beefore the finish line or point to the stands and stop riding..."showboating" I think its called. I could care less as long as the horse wins. I have yet to come across a jockey who by showboating caused his or her horse to lose.
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what do you think of the ride in question? whether or not he was a winner , should he have quit riding?
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