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[GPK]

I just watched the replay 3 times. Come on Marty. There wasn't a chance in hell that Western Deed was gonna get to the winner before the wire. To hear you describe it, I thought I was gonna see him stand up long before the wire. I could see someone getting pissed if he had got nipped for 2nd by not "riding out", but not a chance in hell he was getting the win.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GPK

I just watched the replay 3 times. Come on Marty. There wasn't a chance in hell that Western Deed was gonna get to the winner before the wire. To hear you describe it, I thought I was gonna see him stand up long before the wire. I could see someone getting pissed if he had got nipped for 2nd by not "riding out", but not a chance in hell he was getting the win.

whether he gets to him or not , the question is why is the jockey on the winner all out (and tiring) and ramon has his horse under wraps - listen if it was the same cast of characters in ny otb i could see your point , but , this was a whole new group of people at the PBKC who saw it the way i am telling you guys

kev - your a fan of borel , i heard it out of your mouth at the spa 2 yrs ago after a turf race where he just kept coming and got 2nd , almost getting to the winner, do you really think calvin would have given up at anytime before the wire with that tiring rat in front of him???

i guess if you are at an otb or an outlet like the PBKC your opinion means squat because the fat man has spoken

[GPK]

How far before the wire do you think he quit riding? and can you HONESTLY say that you think he would have gotten to the winner if he rode out the race?

[blackthroatedwind]

Anybody that actually watched this race and doesn't realize the 6 was significantly best should watch 1000 races in a darkened room before being allowed to ever comment on a trip again.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Anybody that actually watched this race and doesn't realize the 6 was significantly best should watch 1000 races in a darkened room before being allowed to ever comment on a trip again.

that may be true but that still does't mean Ramon shouldn't be trying at the end on his mount

[GPK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Anybody that actually watched this race and doesn't realize the 6 was significantly best should watch 1000 races in a darkened room before being allowed to ever comment on a trip again.

Without question he was best. Shuffled back horribly and completely blocked as they began to turn for home. Had to swing widest of them of all. If he gets the same trip Western Deed gets, he wins the race no problem.

[MaTH716]

Marty, I think you are grasping at straws here. He wasn't getting the winner. You would think if he didn't break a step slow, that he would have been much closer to the front and in a better position to get to the 2.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Anybody that actually watched this race and doesn't realize the 6 was significantly best should watch 1000 races in a darkened room before being allowed to ever comment on a trip again.

I call that Tuesday.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Anybody that actually watched this race and doesn't realize the 6 was significantly best should watch 1000 races in a darkened room before being allowed to ever comment on a trip again.

job security for you.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GPK

How far before the wire do you think he quit riding? and can you HONESTLY say that you think he would have gotten to the winner if he rode out the race?

at least the last 10 yds from what i remembered , i dont have replays

as for the 2nd question , i don't know . but you never answered my question about borel and what he would have done?

traffic trouble happens kev , and there are simply bad rides , but when the EFFORT stops it's simply inexcuisible

[GPK]

Originally Posted by gales0678

at least the last 10 yds from what i remembered , i dont have replays

as for the 2nd question , i don't know . but you never answered my question about borel and what he would have done?

traffic trouble happens kev , and there are simply bad rides , but when the EFFORT stops it's simply inexcuisible

Borel would have rode out to the wire....and also finished 2nd

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GPK

Borel would have rode out to the wire....and also finished 2nd

thank you for your honest answer

[pgiaco]

Western Deed is an horrific hanger. I don't think Arcaro could get him to pass a horse.