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Old 01-10-2010, 09:17 PM
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Exactly. We haven't declared war on any country.

Seriously - are you just ignoring the international uproar, the illegalities, the back and forth about treatment of those detained, of those in other countries, of the past eight years? Where all this has already been, to put it mildly, "discussed previously"?
I always laugh when the "international uproar" card is pulled. Uproar from who? Amnesty international? If a terrorist gets caught in China they are never seen or heard from again. Hell they treat thier own people like ****. Remember we couldnt send those chinese guys at Gitmo back to China? Remember why? Because they had the firing squads primed and ready for them as soon as they got off the planes. What about the Russians? Think they are worried about the "rights" of terrorists? Hell 2 years ago they invaded a country with guns blazing and havnt left. What about the treatment of Chechen rebels? Where is the "uproar" about that? What has the UN and all those other "outraged" parties done about them?

Nothing. And I say screw the countries who dont like they way we handle things. It is our security that should come before the "rights" of terrorists and if it is technically illegal by international law than those laws simply need to be changed.

Like Charles Barkley said about treatment of prisoners in penitentiaries, "They are criminals, they are supposed to be treated badly"
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:08 PM
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I always laugh when the "international uproar" card is pulled.
Not as much fun as laughing over the multiple legal battles within our own country, between the Executive and Judicial branches, huh?
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Old 01-11-2010, 03:01 AM
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Not as much fun as laughing over the multiple legal battles within our own country, between the Executive and Judicial branches, huh?
I was responding to a specific comment. It is a stretch to say that there is "international uproar" over the our legal proceedings.
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:20 AM
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The U.S. hasn't won a propaganda war since the 50's. Except for Global Warming and conning people into thinking Govt. provided Healthcare is a constitutional right. Thanks Left.
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:40 PM
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I was responding to a specific comment. It is a stretch to say that there is "international uproar" over the our legal proceedings.
My main point is simply that, although I (and I'm sure, 'Zig) would personally like to take the terrorists, tie them naked to stakes in the sun, and have them eaten by dogs slowly while alive, our judicial system since 9-11 has decided what we can and cannot do with them, legally.
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:36 PM
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My main point is simply that, although I (and I'm sure, 'Zig) would personally like to take the terrorists, tie them naked to stakes in the sun, and have them eaten by dogs slowly while alive, our judicial system since 9-11 has decided what we can and cannot do with them, legally.

actually, no-i wouldn't torture them. my visceral reaction at times is kill them, but i'm actually against the death penalty in most cases. i would, however, have volunteered to pull the trigger on bin laden myself.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:10 PM
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actually, no-i wouldn't torture them. my visceral reaction at times is kill them, but i'm actually against the death penalty in most cases. i would, however, have volunteered to pull the trigger on bin laden myself.
I'm a big death penalty person.

Being the flaming liberal that I am
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:50 PM
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I'm a big death penalty person.

Being the flaming liberal that I am
I'm personally against the death penalty, except in the Military. These Islamic Terrorists should be shot on capture as illegal combatants, and then interrogated. If you are really against the death penalty then why aren't you screaming out against Obama's wide use of Drone Planes? Shouldn't the the bad guys be read their rights before being executed without a fair trial by a jury of their Islamic Terrorist peers?
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Old 01-11-2010, 07:08 PM
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My main point is simply that, although I (and I'm sure, 'Zig) would personally like to take the terrorists, tie them naked to stakes in the sun, and have them eaten by dogs slowly while alive, our judicial system since 9-11 has decided what we can and cannot do with them, legally.
But what does this have to do with international outrage?
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But what does this have to do with international outrage?
Nothing with the tangent you are off upon.

My point was only that what we can legally do with terrorists has already been decided, and that there was alot of publicity over those discussions and legal cases in the past eight years, on both a local and international level (other countries have caught terrorists, too)
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:10 PM
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Nothing with the tangent you are off upon.

My point was only that what we can legally do with terrorists has already been decided, and that there was alot of publicity over those discussions and legal cases in the past eight years, on both a local and international level (other countries have caught terrorists, too)
Off tangent? Perhaps you should review the posts...
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