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Old 01-10-2010, 01:17 PM
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Mende also wrote a column in January of 1996 about Sports Channel New York no longer carrying the "Racing from Gulfstream" show. Menda complained that Sports Channel "let its ego get in the way" of showing race replays to thousands of fans.

how ironic!
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:21 PM
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how ironic!
That sure is ironic.. last night he struck again and destroyed my second channel. Claiming he owns the old replays from Gulfstream Park..
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:26 PM
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That sure is ironic.. last night he struck again and destroyed my second channel. Claiming he owns the old replays from Gulfstream Park..
Does he have a friend at Youtube? What is Youtube telling you, if anything?
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:30 PM
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Does he have a friend at Youtube? What is Youtube telling you, if anything?
This is an example of how I get notified via email.. the responses from YouTube are automated.. so I don't think he knows someone, he's just continually making false claims of ownership and if it happens enough they shut down your channel..

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Old 01-10-2010, 01:44 PM
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Would be cool to have Haskin write up this story in BH and see the outpouring of pissed off horse fans put pressure on him/them.
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:47 PM
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Would be cool to have Haskin write up this story in BH and see the outpouring of pissed off horse fans put pressure on him/them.
good idea. i just don't see how this guy thinks that because he has a video library, he suddenly has sole rights to these races.
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Old 01-10-2010, 02:15 PM
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nice work Mende. i never heard of you before or your "reputation" as great handicapper. i wont forget you now.
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Old 01-10-2010, 02:27 PM
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good idea. i just don't see how this guy thinks that because he has a video library, he suddenly has sole rights to these races.
He doesn't; the problem is that KirisClown, or anyone with a taped replay of a race, doesn't either. The rights belong to whoever actually filmed the race (the track, I assume, or the broadcast channel). So, while this idiot is lying to say he owns the rights, he's not lying to say that the person who put up the video doesn't own the rights. YouTube is understandably nervous about lawsuits and so are likely to err on the side of caution in taking anything down. The reason you can find so much copyrighted material posted on YouTube illegally is because there are so many people doing it that it's impossible to keep up with them all.

The best course would be probably to get permission from the channel that originally broadcast the race. In the event the channel doesn't exist anymore, then maybe the racetrack.

The other option would be if posting these races could be construed to fall under the Fair Use portion of the Copyright Act. In that case, it doesn't matter who taped them, made them, whatever; they're okay to show. But I have no idea how one would go about determining that. I guess you could argue to YouTube that they fall under Fair Use and then see if this idiot would be willing to sue, but again, as he'd more likely want to sue YouTube, I imagine YouTube would still take them down to avoid the hassle.

If the digital videos are still in Kiris', or anyone else's posession, that person could always set up an independent website with the races on them, and just decide if he or she wants to deal with the legal hassle of possibly being sued over it.

Either way, it's a shame, and I hope it gets sorted out. I really enjoyed watching the videos.
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:35 PM
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This is an example of how I get notified via email.. the responses from YouTube are automated.. so I don't think he knows someone, he's just continually making false claims of ownership and if it happens enough they shut down your channel..
Sue him. After taking up a collection for attorneys' fees.
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My friend at TTimes blogged about it today, should be up on their website soon...
http://blog-beb.thoroughbredtimes.co...r-manners.html
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It's up on http://www.equidaily.com/ now, so many more "non forumites" will be aware.
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Sounds like it wasn't so hard to find this guy was it? I usually don't get into name calling but this guy must be a real jerks or he's off his med's.
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Videos to be back up within the next 2 weeks...
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Old 01-14-2010, 12:50 PM
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Videos to be back up within the next 2 weeks...
Very cool.

Any story behind the reinstatement, or will we hear about it later?
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:14 PM
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Videos to be back up within the next 2 weeks...

sweet! way to fight the good fight kiris!
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Videos to be back up within the next 2 weeks...
you sure this is accurate, or a they "could" be up in 10-14 days?
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:57 PM
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you sure this is accurate, or a they "could" be up in 10-14 days?
Correct, "could" (hopefully "likely") will be up in 10-14 days, as per Kiri's.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:03 PM
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Videos to be back up within the next 2 weeks...
excellent news.
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