DT FOCUS (1/9-AQU 2): Eightyfiveinafifty (105 Beyer)

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Ran a 105 BSF while setting an average pace. Seems like a nice sprinter, but I can't see him holding up through the derby season and going 10F.

105 is a 105. Take nothing away from this run. Most horses don't want 10 panels. That's not saying anything. This is a really nice horse.

[Indian Charlie]

So, what does that name mean exactly? 85ina50?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

105 is a 105. Take nothing away from this run. Most horses don't want 10 panels. That's not saying anything. This is a really nice horse.

"A 105 is a 105" is a pretty painfully off-base statement.

Anyways. . . I think this horse is pretty good, despite the fact that he was facing a bad field and waltzed on the lead.

My derby reference was because the DRF article about the horse said Contessa expects him to be an important 3-year-old this year, implying (you would think), that he'll be relevant on the Derby trail. The King's Bishop seems like a much more realistic long term goal. . . if he can somehow stay healthy.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

"A 105 is a 105" is a pretty painfully off-base statement.

Anyways. . . I think this horse is pretty good, despite the fact that he was facing a bad field and waltzed on the lead.

My derby reference was because the DRF article about the horse said Contessa expects him to be an important 3-year-old this year, implying (you would think), that he'll be relevant on the Derby trail. The King's Bishop seems like a much more realistic long term goal. . . if he can somehow stay healthy.

Actually that field might not be too bad..The second place horse has a future and ran a very good race.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Actually that field might not be too bad..The second place horse has a future and ran a very good race.

How can you possibly say Avenging Spirit ran a good race?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

How can you possibly say Avenging Spirit ran a good race?

Because I know he did. I know the horse is very well thought of and I didn't need anyone to tell me he ran well in his first start. He broke fair showed nice early speed which will not be his trade mark in the future was green as heck down the lane and still managed to out finish the rest that hadn't made a run. perhaps you should go to the replay and watch that horses stride? he isnt a sprinter and will be better going longer.

[hockey2315]

I don't care how well thought of the horse is. . . Nothing about his run backed up all the hype. Clearly your expectations prior to the race are clouding your ability to objectively evaluate his performance. The winner couldn't have accelerated away from AS any easier and, no matter how hard he tried to blow it for second, none of those horses were even good enough to clunk up and pass him.

Maybe whatever injuries he has struggled with came back to haunt him in the stretch, but that certainly doesn't bode well for his future.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I don't care how well thought of the horse is. . . Nothing about his run backed up all the hype. Clearly your expectations prior to the race are clouding your ability to objectively evaluate his performance. The winner couldn't have accelerated away from AS any easier and, no matter how hard he tried to blow it for second, none of those horses were even good enough to clunk up and pass him.

Maybe whatever injuries he has struggled with came back to haunt him in the stretch, but that certainly doesn't bode well for his future.

If biggest hype horse ran a 105 in his second and this horse ran 17 lengths behind in his first which is what a 75 BSF then I think it was a very good first try.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

105 is a 105. Take nothing away from this run. Most horses don't want 10 panels. That's not saying anything. This is a really nice horse.

Yes he is. Cant wait to see him develop. This could be one we will be talking about for a long, long time.