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Old 01-05-2010, 11:02 AM
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I'm surprised no one has touched on this topic....

but was it ethical for Pedroza to be "sick" so that Gomez could take over his horse and win the money title?
Of course it wasn't ethical, and it was particularly unfair to bettors that may have wagered against the ML favorite with Pedroza riding in P3/P4/P6s. It sets a bad precedent.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:16 AM
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Ramon Dominguez was only 200k behind in third. I guess all those claiming and ALW purse money really do add up.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:23 AM
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Ramon Dominguez was only 200k behind in third. I guess all those claiming and ALW purse money really do add up.
Did he not win any stakes races?

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Old 01-05-2010, 11:46 AM
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Ramon had 700 more mounts than Gomez, pretty sad if you can't take advantage of that, but than again if your the East Coast Russell Baze those low end claiming races on 4/5 favorites don't pay particularly well, as it is Julien had over 300 more mounts so it's not like he didn't have a more than fair chance as well, plus they tried to move someone off a mount in the Stake at Calder and couldn't do it, guess he's not as popular as Garrett who had far more offers than just Pedroza, I know if my pal was that close I would have done the same for him, I just don't see how the bettors suffer, it's no different than when a rider goes down and a replacement rider is named at the last minute, especially in light of the fact most here think jocks are incidental anyway. Mike Smith admitted this type of thing has ALWAYS gone on and he personally gave up mounts to Angel Cordero to win Saratoga riding titles, one time 10 mounts in 2 days, and Pat Day would ride at small tracks at night replacing jocks to win the earnings title, Julien would have done it as well and I frankly see no big deal in it.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:51 AM
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Ramon had 700 more mounts than Gomez, pretty sad if you can't take advantage of that, but than again if your the East Coast Russell Baze those low end claiming races on 4/5 favorites don't pay particularly well, as it is Julien had over 300 more mounts so it's not like he didn't have a more than fair chance as well, plus they tried to move someone off a mount in the Stake at Calder and couldn't do it, guess he's not as popular as Garrett who had far more offers than just Pedroza, I know if my pal was that close I would have done the same for him, I just don't see how the bettors suffer, it's no different than when a rider goes down and a replacement rider is named at the last minute, especially in light of the fact most here think jocks are incidental anyway. Mike Smith admitted this type of thing has ALWAYS gone on and he personally gave up mounts to Angel Cordero to win Saratoga riding titles, one time 10 mounts in 2 days, and Pat Day would ride at small tracks at night replacing jocks to win the earnings title, Julien would have done it as well and I frankly see no big deal in it.
Was the point of this post to:

A) Condone Pedroza giving Gomez a mount on the favorite

B) Insult Dominguez

C) Make up something about Leparoux trying to get a mount in a stake on a day where CrC ran an 8 race program with no stakes races

D) All of the above

Which one is it?

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Old 01-05-2010, 11:56 AM
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To underline it's much to do about nothing, or any of the above.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:59 AM
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To underline it's much to do about nothing, or any of the above.
This one incident isn't a big deal, but it is just part of the whole package where the bettor is taken for granted.

It is certainly not the same thing as a rider going down. That is an expected part of the game. What is not expected is taking an average rider off and putting a top rider on to reach a record few if any care about. As usual, the pecking order for concern ranks bettors about 18th behind pretty much everybody else.
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:45 PM
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Did he not win any stakes races?

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Of course he did win stakes races. A bunch of 75k stakes races, arlington million and came second in the classic. 2010 will be his breakthrough year into the elite class.
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