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Old 01-02-2010, 08:27 PM
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What makes you believe that Obama has done such a bangup job?
As I said, things like aggressively pursuing and taking out very important AQ in Somalia, Pakistan, etc.

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What exactly has changed and how would you really know anyway?
Just going by what's public knowledge. Where Bush pursed AQ and how, versus where Obama is pursuing AQ, and how.
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Old 01-02-2010, 08:32 PM
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As I said, things like aggressively pursuing and taking out very important AQ in Somalia, Pakistan, etc.



Just going by what's public knowledge. Where Bush pursed AQ and how, versus where Obama is pursuing AQ, and how.
You saying so doesn't make it so. Perhaps you choose to believe that somehow the public has 100% knowledge of what is going on in these places. I would think that you would realize that we are only told what they want us to know.
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Old 01-02-2010, 08:40 PM
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As I said, things like aggressively pursuing and taking out very important AQ in Somalia, Pakistan, etc.

Just going by what's public knowledge. Where Bush pursed AQ and how, versus where Obama is pursuing AQ, and how.

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You saying so doesn't make it so. Perhaps you choose to believe that somehow the public has 100% knowledge of what is going on in these places. I would think that you would realize that we are only told what they want us to know.
LOL - What part of, "going by public knowledge" didn't you understand? I'm not talking about anything secret. I'm talking about what is public knowledge in the press about where both Presidents placed troops, reports of AQ killed, etc.
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Old 01-02-2010, 08:49 PM
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LOL - What part of, "going by public knowledge" didn't you understand? I'm not talking about anything secret. I'm talking about what is public knowledge in the press about where both Presidents placed troops, reports of AQ killed, etc.
So perhaps Obama's team is more willing to release news of these reports than Bush was? You are making assumptions based on bits of released information, not on the true data. Maybe we know 99% of what has happened. Maybe we know 9%. There is know way to know.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:01 PM
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us policy in afganistan is a joke..they are putting lipstick on a pig..he shouldent send anyone if hes only putting 30k in the region.. oh and thats not
going into the 'other ' country right below it..where they will hide at will...

media blackout and some good old fashond black water Inglorious Bastards
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:10 PM
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media blackout and some good old fashond black water Inglorious Bastards
action..
I completely agree. What we should have done to bin Laden back when we had the chance. Blow the hell out of all of them.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:19 PM
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I completely agree. What we should have done to bin Laden back when we had the chance. Blow the hell out of all of them.
your boy clinton missed that chance..
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:07 PM
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So perhaps Obama's team is more willing to release news of these reports than Bush was? You are making assumptions based on bits of released information, not on the true data. Maybe we know 99% of what has happened. Maybe we know 9%. There is know way to know.
I am not making assumptions. I am saying that, only according to the AQ listed as killed during Obama's year so far, and what and where Bush pursued AQ, Obama is doing a good job, and in places Bush never went to.

If you recall, there was great discussion and debate by all candidates about how and where to continue to pursue AQ. Iraq - Iran - everywhere else.

Bush-Cheney was never shy about claiming credit for military success, most certainly not success against AQ. "Mission Accomplished" Nor should they be. Every AQ kill is a credit to America against the scum of the world. We're not the only nation that suffers at AQ hands.

Do you really think the last administration hid any vast secret success against AQ? Secretly killed major AQ operatives and didn't publicize it?

My point is that the characterization of Obama as inactive or ineffective against terrorism is most obviously not true, based upon what has been accomplished to date. He's doing fine. He deserves credit for what he's done so far.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:11 PM
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I am not making assumptions.
You are making assumptions. You dont have all the facts therefore must assume things.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:13 PM
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My point is that the characterization of Obama as inactive or ineffective against terrorism is most obviously not true, based upon what has been accomplished to date. He's doing fine. He deserves credit for what he's done so far.
But we arent debating the job Obama has done. We are debating your statement. And you have yet to make a post that would convince anyone that your statement was accurate.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:15 PM
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I am not making assumptions. I am saying that, only according to the AQ listed as killed during Obama's year so far, and what and where Bush pursued AQ, Obama is doing a good job, and in places Bush never went to.

If you recall, there was great discussion and debate by all candidates about how and where to continue to pursue AQ. Iraq - Iran - everywhere else.

Bush-Cheney was never shy about claiming credit for military success, most certainly not success against AQ. "Mission Accomplished" Nor should they be. Every AQ kill is a credit to America against the scum of the world. We're not the only nation that suffers at AQ hands.

Do you really think the last administration hid any vast secret success against AQ? Secretly killed major AQ operatives and didn't publicize it?

My point is that the characterization of Obama as inactive or ineffective against terrorism is most obviously not true, based upon what has been accomplished to date. He's doing fine. He deserves credit for what he's done so far.
they missed one that has same middle name..
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they missed one that has same middle name..
The guy with the American Michael name, also has Islam as an alias ....
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