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Old 12-27-2009, 08:25 PM
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Because after the BCC, its tempting fate to continue. And how likely is it that a race could be put together that would be "fair" to both sides? Unless RA will point for this year's BCC. . .

Seriously, Mr. and Mrs. Moss, let her go out on top. Don't let hubris get the best of you--and her.
Dirt track, 6 or 7 other horses, 10 furlongs classic distance

I think that would be fair.

I think even if there was not a race written that would benefit them both, any track would make up one if they knew both horses would come
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:18 PM
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Dirt track, 6 or 7 other horses, 10 furlongs classic distance

I think that would be fair.

I think even if there was not a race written that would benefit them both, any track would make up one if they knew both horses would come
Problem 1), getting 6 or 7 other quality horses. Who are they? Problem 2) RA wouldn't be ready for 10F until summer, if then.

Dirt, everybody's fine with.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:38 PM
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Problem 1), getting 6 or 7 other quality horses. Who are they? Problem 2) RA wouldn't be ready for 10F until summer, if then.

Dirt, everybody's fine with.
RA wouldn't be ready for 10F until summer, if then.

RA will never be ready for the Classic distance of 1 1/4 miles
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:57 PM
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RA wouldn't be ready for 10F until summer, if then.

RA will never be ready for the Classic distance of 1 1/4 miles
Yeah, she really looked like she'd struggle with 10fs in the Oaks, Mother Goose, and Haskell. I guess the race flow of the Woodward and Preakness don't have anything to do with her (in)ability to handle 10fs.

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Old 12-28-2009, 03:09 PM
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Yep. RA is better suited for 10 furlongs than any other distance.

The kind of people who think she would struggle with added distance because of the way she finished up after taking tremendous heat in the Preakness and Whitney ... those are the kind of people that either don't bet or would lose more than takeout if they did bet.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:46 PM
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Well put, Drugsy.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:47 PM
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Yep. RA is better suited for 10 furlongs than any other distance.

The kind of people who think she would struggle with added distance because of the way she finished up after taking tremendous heat in the Preakness and Whitney ... those are the kind of people that either don't bet or would lose more than takeout if they did bet.
Shhh. Let them keep thinking like that.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:51 PM
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Yep. RA is better suited for 10 furlongs than any other distance.

The kind of people who think she would struggle with added distance because of the way she finished up after taking tremendous heat in the Preakness and Whitney ... those are the kind of people that either don't bet or would lose more than takeout if they did bet.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:46 AM
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Yep. RA is better suited for 10 furlongs than any other distance.

The kind of people who think she would struggle with added distance because of the way she finished up after taking tremendous heat in the Preakness and Whitney ... those are the kind of people that either don't bet or would lose more than takeout if they did bet.
Why are folks always suckers for the closers.

They watch Horse A battle through fast fractions, put away the chasers on the far turn, then hold off the deep closer Horse B, and their immediate thought will be, "Horse A was just lucky. One more jump and Horse B would have caught her. Horse B is the better horse."
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:04 AM
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Why are folks always suckers for the closers.

They watch Horse A battle through fast fractions, put away the chasers on the far turn, then hold off the deep closer Horse B, and their immediate thought will be, "Horse A was just lucky. One more jump and Horse B would have caught her. Horse B is the better horse."
Horses staggering home at shorter distances don't inspire confidence when going longer. And all those people that keep touting her Mother Goose win, I hope they don't really think RA was 20 lengths better than the 2nd horse (even if it was only an allowance horse). Maybe if you know you're beaten, and there is only 1 other horse you have to beat (whopping 3-horse field), you might just try to beat that other horse for 2nd (which at 12 lengths further back--didn't really make you run hard. Biggest winning margin -- jeez, give me a break.
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:30 PM
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Yeah, she really looked like she'd struggle with 10fs in the Oaks, Mother Goose, and Haskell. I guess the race flow of the Woodward and Preakness don't have anything to do with her (in)ability to handle 10fs.

NT
Last time they ran the Oaks, Haskell and Mother Goose it was at 9f and yes she will be a bet against at 10 furlongs if she tries the BC Classic next year.

I hope we see her try to top Zenyatta's race against the boys at 1 1/4.
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:48 PM
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Last time they ran the Oaks, Haskell and Mother Goose it was at 9f and yes she will be a bet against at 10 furlongs if she tries the BC Classic next year.

I hope we see her try to top Zenyatta's race against the boys at 1 1/4.
I know the distances of those races, you mis-read what I wrote.

The idea that Rachel can't get 10 furlongs is idiotic.

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Old 12-29-2009, 09:48 AM
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I know the distances of those races, you mis-read what I wrote.

The idea that Rachel can't get 10 furlongs is idiotic.

NT
I didn't mis read what you wrote and I think your girl can get 10 furlongs, but I find it intersting what will happen when she get just 1 pound from the boys at 1 1/4. I'm sure that the RA camp doesn't think that weight made any differance in her races.
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