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Old 12-22-2009, 04:17 PM
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Default 12/26-27 (AQU): Gravesend; Alex M. Robb

SATURDAY 3rd (1:24) Gravesend H.

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $65,000

1 The Roundhouse Dominguez R A 116 L
2 Laysh Laysh Laysh Migliore R 114 L
3 Gold Trippi Castellano J J 117 L
1a Digger Napravnik A R 112 L
4 Joey P. Lopez C C 115 L
5 Starforaday Cohen D 114 L
6 Pashito the Che Coa E M 117 L

A-Coupled: The Roundhouse and Digger



8th (3:44) Alex M. Robb H.

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $65,000

1 Wishful Tomcat Dominguez R A 122 L
2 See More Spirit Migliore R 116 L
3 Be Bullish Castellano J J 117 L
4 Dr. D. F. C. Napravnik A R 116 L
5 Naughty New Yorker Samyn J L 117 L
6 Pegasian Hill C 114 L
7 Love Abroad Jara F 115 L
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:56 AM
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Digger looks like lone speed and a probable winner. Too bad you have to get the Roundhouse as his entrymate, the price will be terrible. On his own Digger would probably be 5/1. With the Roundhouse, you're looking at more like 9/5.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:02 AM
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Digger looks like lone speed and a probable winner. Too bad you have to get the Roundhouse as his entrymate, the price will be terrible. On his own Digger would probably be 5/1. With the Roundhouse, you're looking at more like 9/5.
Well Pashito the Che is even-money on the morning line coming off of three straight wins with beyers of 102, 109, and 104, but I'm sure they'll be betting The Roundhouse off the board with his last three finishes of 3rd, 4th, and 5th with 89, 80, and 93 beyers.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:07 AM
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Pashito the Che just beat Prince Joshua last out.
Prince Joshua was coming off a 18 and 36 Beyers in his last 2 starts.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:08 AM
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Well Pashito the Che is even-money on the morning line coming off of three straight wins with beyers of 102, 109, and 104, but I'm sure they'll be betting The Roundhouse off the board with his last three finishes of 3rd, 4th, and 5th with 89, 80, and 93 beyers.
Whatever. Pletcher is 56%, this horse has a ton of backclass. Its probably the worst field hes run against on the dirt. Hes part of an entry. Its a short field where they'll probably be betting 2 or 3 horses at most.

Wow, that Lake horse has really improved in his last 3! LOL.

I'm thinking Pashito the Che goes off 4/5 and this entry 2/1.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:09 AM
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Pashito the Che just beat Prince Joshua last out.
Prince Joshua was coming off a 18 and 36 Beyers in his last 2 starts.
It's pretty clear that Prince Joshua is a completely different horse on dry tracks.

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Old 12-24-2009, 11:12 AM
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It's pretty clear that Prince Joshua is a completely different horse on dry tracks.

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Yup. That was a brutal beat for those of us who bet him to win at 13/1 last time. Would have been one of the all time best overlays imo.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:14 AM
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Yup. That was a brutal beat for those of us who bet him to win at 13/1 last time. Would have been one of the all time best overlays imo.
I think when I mentioned I liked him on Steve's show the day before he was on the other end of the phone writing down "never have him back on the show, he's retarded."

Yes, it was a nasty beat.

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Old 12-24-2009, 11:19 AM
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I think when I mentioned I liked him on Steve's show the day before he was on the other end of the phone writing down "never have him back on the show, he's retarded."

Yes, it was a nasty beat.

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LOL, I mentioned it on the Serling Chat (the night before) and Andy replied back that he likes his chances also and he will be betting him. I dont think a lot of people were paying attention to me bringing him up because it was a non NYRA race. I dont think the exacta paid a lot the way it came in, but I wish I backed myself up. That one stung.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:27 AM
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thank God Aqueduct's back.. stellar racing
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:30 AM
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thank God Aqueduct's back.. stellar racing
Nothing like some good old fashioned winter warriors running on real dirt.

You don't really want to argue about the atrocity that was the recently concluded Hollywood Park meet, right?

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Old 12-24-2009, 11:32 AM
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Gander is kinda making himself look like a fool here... Whatever, have a good Christmas man. I think the 2 has a shot.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:33 AM
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I thought the card would be a bit better, specifically the Gravesend, but it sure beats any races on polyrubber.
I'm betting Digital Joe in the 6th and may take a shot with Digger in the 3rd if the price is somehow inflated.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:34 AM
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Gander is kinda making himself look like a fool here... Whatever, have a good Christmas man. I think the 2 has a shot.
Sorry, thats usually your role. You enjoy the holiday as well.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:35 AM
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I thought the card would be a bit better, specifically the Gravesend, but it sure beats any races on polyrubber.
I'm betting Digital Joe in the 6th and may take a shot with Digger in the 3rd if the price is somehow inflated.

Digger is not that good.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:52 AM
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Digger is not that good.
You're right, I should listen to you. The same guy who said the Native Diver was a 2 horse race between Neko Bay and Square Eddie.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:57 AM
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Nothing like some good old fashioned winter warriors running on real dirt.

You don't really want to argue about the atrocity that was the recently concluded Hollywood Park meet, right?

NT
I prefer betting tracks like the Fair Grounds..
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:19 PM
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You're right, I should listen to you. The same guy who said the Native Diver was a 2 horse race between Neko Bay and Square Eddie.
Im pretty sure the track played all speed that day, and IM 100% I am not the only one around here who felt that way.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:51 PM
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Im pretty sure the track played all speed that day, and IM 100% I am not the only one around here who felt that way.
Then in that case, wouldnt have Mast Track been the logical bet? He has no other way to run then on the front end. I'll give you a free pass because its Christmas and polytrack racing is awful in general...but that analysis was awful dude. And your justification (above) makes it even worse.
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Old 12-24-2009, 02:17 PM
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Then in that case, wouldnt have Mast Track been the logical bet? He has no other way to run then on the front end. I'll give you a free pass because its Christmas and polytrack racing is awful in general...but that analysis was awful dude. And your justification (above) makes it even worse.

Was it worst then you talking up Digger when hes clearly the 3rd best option in here?
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