12/26-27 (AQU): Gravesend; Alex M. Robb

Gander · #1 12-24-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

It's pretty clear that Prince Joshua is a completely different horse on dry tracks.

NT

Yup. That was a brutal beat for those of us who bet him to win at 13/1 last time. Would have been one of the all time best overlays imo.

NTamm1215 · #2 12-24-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Yup. That was a brutal beat for those of us who bet him to win at 13/1 last time. Would have been one of the all time best overlays imo.

I think when I mentioned I liked him on Steve's show the day before he was on the other end of the phone writing down "never have him back on the show, he's retarded."

Yes, it was a nasty beat.

NT

Gander · #3 12-24-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I think when I mentioned I liked him on Steve's show the day before he was on the other end of the phone writing down "never have him back on the show, he's retarded."

Yes, it was a nasty beat.

NT

LOL, I mentioned it on the Serling Chat (the night before) and Andy replied back that he likes his chances also and he will be betting him. I dont think a lot of people were paying attention to me bringing him up because it was a non NYRA race. I dont think the exacta paid a lot the way it came in, but I wish I backed myself up. That one stung.

TitanSooner · #4 12-24-2009, 11:27 AM

thank God Aqueduct's back.. stellar racing

NTamm1215 · #5 12-24-2009, 11:30 AM

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thank God Aqueduct's back.. stellar racing

Nothing like some good old fashioned winter warriors running on real dirt.

You don't really want to argue about the atrocity that was the recently concluded Hollywood Park meet, right?

NT

RockHardTen1985 · #6 12-24-2009, 11:32 AM

Gander is kinda making himself look like a fool here... Whatever, have a good Christmas man. I think the 2 has a shot.

Gander · #7 12-24-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Gander is kinda making himself look like a fool here... Whatever, have a good Christmas man. I think the 2 has a shot.

Sorry, thats usually your role. You enjoy the holiday as well.

Gander · #8 12-24-2009, 11:33 AM

I thought the card would be a bit better, specifically the Gravesend, but it sure beats any races on polyrubber.
I'm betting Digital Joe in the 6th and may take a shot with Digger in the 3rd if the price is somehow inflated.

RockHardTen1985 · #9 12-24-2009, 11:35 AM

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I thought the card would be a bit better, specifically the Gravesend, but it sure beats any races on polyrubber.
I'm betting Digital Joe in the 6th and may take a shot with Digger in the 3rd if the price is somehow inflated.

Digger is not that good.

TitanSooner · #10 12-24-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Nothing like some good old fashioned winter warriors running on real dirt.

You don't really want to argue about the atrocity that was the recently concluded Hollywood Park meet, right?

NT

I prefer betting tracks like the Fair Grounds..

Gander · #11 12-24-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I think when I mentioned I liked him on Steve's show the day before he was on the other end of the phone writing down "never have him back on the show, he's retarded."

Yes, it was a nasty beat.

NT

Hey NT, I forgot Prince Joshua is running on Saturday at Calder. Any thoughts on his chances? If he breaks like he did last time (he pretty much is forced to be sent from the rail) he could prove tough, no?

RockHardTen1985 · #12 12-24-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Hey NT, I forgot Prince Joshua is running on Saturday at Calder. Any thoughts on his chances? If he breaks like he did last time (he pretty much is forced to be sent from the rail) he could prove tough, no?

IMO no.

NTamm1215 · #13 12-24-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Hey NT, I forgot Prince Joshua is running on Saturday at Calder. Any thoughts on his chances? If he breaks like he did last time (he pretty much is forced to be sent from the rail) he could prove tough, no?

The rail kind of forces the jockey's hand but I'm not sure he necessarily needs the lead. He's worth inclusion in the Pick 4.

All I know about the rest of the field is that if Biker Boy wins, I lose. I think he's a complete mediocrity who put up one smokescreen allowance win after another. I want no part of him.

I might try to be clever with Dream Maestro on the cutback as well and I'll use the juice trio of Ness-Wolfson squared. So, I guess I'm going deep since I haven't even mentioned This Ones For Phil.

NT

chucklestheclown · #14 12-25-2009, 01:08 AM

I have been beaten down. I am actually glad to see a race I think Naughty New Yorker can win.

NTamm1215 · #15 12-26-2009, 09:39 PM

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I have been beaten down. I am actually glad to see a race I think Naughty New Yorker can win.

Did you simply look at the entries? Cause I'd love to know how you came to that conclusion using any type of past performance information.

NT

hockey2315 · #16 12-26-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Did you simply look at the entries? Cause I'd love to know how you came to that conclusion using any type of past performance information.

NT

As he said elsewhere - "he doesn't use PPs" . . . I'm not surprised

Gander · #17 12-25-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The rail kind of forces the jockey's hand but I'm not sure he necessarily needs the lead. He's worth inclusion in the Pick 4.

All I know about the rest of the field is that if Biker Boy wins, I lose. I think he's a complete mediocrity who put up one smokescreen allowance win after another. I want no part of him.

I might try to be clever with Dream Maestro on the cutback as well and I'll use the juice trio of Ness-Wolfson squared. So, I guess I'm going deep since I haven't even mentioned This Ones For Phil.

NT

Merry Christmas NT, and thanks for your insight and good luck tomorrow!

RockHardTen1985 · #18 12-25-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The rail kind of forces the jockey's hand but I'm not sure he necessarily needs the lead. He's worth inclusion in the Pick 4.

All I know about the rest of the field is that if Biker Boy wins, I lose. I think he's a complete mediocrity who put up one smokescreen allowance win after another. I want no part of him.

I might try to be clever with Dream Maestro on the cutback as well and I'll use the juice trio of Ness-Wolfson squared. So, I guess I'm going deep since I haven't even mentioned This Ones For Phil.

NT

Biker Boy and Martys 2 are clearly the ones to beat, IMO.

NTamm1215 · #19 12-26-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Biker Boy and Martys 2 are clearly the ones to beat, IMO.

Why is Biker Boy better than This Ones for Phil? And why is You and I Forever a likely winner of this race, because he beat up a horrible field going 7/8ths on this track in July? He is beginning to look washed up, which is usually when Marty's horses rebound but I just don't see this as a race where you can say one particular horse "is clearly the one to beat."

NT

Sightseek · #20 12-26-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Why is Biker Boy better than This Ones for Phil? And why is You and I Forever a likely winner of this race, because he beat up a horrible field going 7/8ths on this track in July? He is beginning to look washed up, which is usually when Marty's horses rebound but I just don't see this as a race where you can say one particular horse "is clearly the one to beat."

NT

You and I and This Ones for Phil are both scratches.