Stretching the field...

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

There is no defensive unit that outclasses them. Maybe eight or nine are a little better - but not by a whole lot.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

This is easily the 3rd best defense Moss has ever had.

Clearly behind the 18-1 '07 Pats

And somewhat behind the 11-5 '08 Matt Cassell's

don't think so ....if they were tops in the league or right there uncle bill punts the ball away against the colts and makes them go 70 + yds to beat them

remember bill b is a defenese coach and that is where he knows best , if that was his giant defense from the 80's he punts the ball in that spot, he knows what he has an avg defense with no difference maker

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by gales0678

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don't think so ....if they were tops in the league or right there uncle bill punts the ball away against the colts and makes them go 70 + yds to beat them

remember bill b is a defenese coach and that is where he knows best , if that was his giant defense from the 80's he punts the ball in that spot, he knows what he has an avg defense with no difference maker

I'm not a decorated football handicapper or anything ... I'm no more qualified in my non Randy Moss football opinons than anyone else here.

That said .... I like this defense a whole hell of a lot better than the 1998 Vikings defense - and that team went 15-1.

This isn't a bad defense. If they still had Richard Seymour ... I wouldn't take any other defense in the entire leauge over them when you look at the way Baltimore and Pittsburgh have been playing

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'm not a decorated football handicapper or anything ... I'm no more qualified in my non Randy Moss football opinons than anyone else here.

That said .... I like this defense a whole hell of a lot better than the 1998 Vikings defense - and that team went 15-1.

This isn't a bad defense. If they still had Richard Seymour ... I wouldn't take any other defense in the entire leauge over them when you look at the way Baltimore and Pittsburgh have been playing

seymour isn't coming back , there is no pass rush , surely you understand moss is not the same player he was back in '98 , surely you understand chris carter was an all time WR on the other side of the field , robert smith was a stud out of ohio st , culpepper was healthy at this point and did what he had to do

this defense just doesn't have a difference maker and that will be the difference

pats will win the east , maybe win a game or two in the playoffs , but , the defense will not hold up over 3 games , even if moss goes off

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by gales0678

seymour isn't coming back , there is no pass rush , surely you understand moss is not the same player he was back in '98 , surely you understand chris carter was an all time WR on the other side of the field , robert smith was a stud out of ohio st , culpepper was healthy at this point and did what he had to do

Dude - Brad Johnson was the starting qb of the '98 team - and Randall Cunnhingham the backup eventually became starter when Johnson got hurt. Cunningham won the NFL MVP award that year.

Culpepper was in college at Central Florida when that team was great.

Jeff George was the Vikes starting qb the following year - he won a playoff game and played in a pro bowl.

Culpepper was the starter of the 2000 Vikes team.

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Dude - Brad Johnson was the starting qb of the '98 team - and Randall Cunnhingham the backup eventually became starter when Johnson got hurt. Cunningham won the NFL MVP award that year.

Culpepper was in college at Central Florida when that team was great.

Jeff George was the Vikes starting qb the following year - he won a playoff game and played in a pro bowl.

Culpepper was the starter of the 2000 Vikes team.

ok so i got the qb wrong , big deal , what does any of this have to do with this years pats defense ?????