John Wall

otisotisotis · #1 12-11-2009, 05:28 PM

Best John Wall thread going...enjoy UK fans!

http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.a...id=888&style=2

Scav · #2 12-12-2009, 12:32 PM

If Kentucky were to play Kansas today, in Chicago (neutral court), Kentucky would win by 10-15.

They are just f'n around in this game against Indiana.

They remind me exactly of Memphis, except Memphis had Dorsey who was horrible offensively, Kentucky has 5 guys that can score.

ateamstupid · #3 12-12-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

If Kentucky were to play Kansas today, in Chicago (neutral court), Kentucky would win by 10-15.

They are just f'n around in this game against Indiana.

They remind me exactly of Memphis, except Memphis had Dorsey who was horrible offensively, Kentucky has 5 guys that can score.

Let's relax a little bit. Those are hardly classic UConn and UNC teams they beat. This is the same team that needed a buzzer beater to get by Miami (OH), gave up 92 points to Sam Houston State and needed OT to beat a crappy Stanford team. Let's see what happens when they get into SEC play.

I think everyone's so used to seeing Kentucky wet the bed early in the year that they're overrating this team for not screwing up terribly yet.

philcski · #4 12-12-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Let's relax a little bit. Those are hardly classic UConn and UNC teams they beat. This is the same team that needed a buzzer beater to get by Miami (OH), gave up 92 points to Sam Houston State and needed OT to beat a crappy Stanford team. Let's see what happens when they get into SEC play.

I think everyone's so used to seeing Kentucky wet the bed early in the year that they're overrating this team for not screwing up terribly yet.

You know I hate UK basketball, especially now being inundated by it in this town, but this team is GOOD and getting better.

I doubted them early after their mediocre efforts against Miami (OH) and Sam Houston State but I'm a believer now. They will steamroll the SEC.

Scav · #5 12-12-2009, 10:55 PM

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You know I hate UK basketball, especially now being inundated by it in this town, but this team is GOOD and getting better.

I doubted them early after their mediocre efforts against Miami (OH) and Sam Houston State but I'm a believer now. They will steamroll the SEC.

That is the scary thing Phil, they have absolutely no idea what they are doing, they are playing street ball and all five starters can score 25 if they need to. Very dangerous.

Who is in the SEC this year anyways? Tennessee? They are quality, I know Mississippi State is playing well. I watched Florida play 'Cuse the other night and thought they were overrated.

ateamstupid · #6 12-12-2009, 11:24 PM

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That is the scary thing Phil, they have absolutely no idea what they are doing, they are playing street ball and all five starters can score 25 if they need to. Very dangerous.

Who is in the SEC this year anyways? Tennessee? They are quality, I know Mississippi State is playing well. I watched Florida play 'Cuse the other night and thought they were overrated.

Florida is good. Syracuse is really good. Better than Kentucky. You want scary? What Syracuse did at the Garden was scary. Way more impressive than anything Kentucky's done.

Scav · #7 12-12-2009, 11:39 PM

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Florida is good. Syracuse is really good. Better than Kentucky. You want scary? What Syracuse did at the Garden was scary. Way more impressive than anything Kentucky's done.

I like Syracuse this year, and I think it would be a good game with Kentucky if they got to play, but I wasn't impressed with Florida at all, watching the game I felt their talent was two notches below Syracuse.

Looks like a pretty deep year this year, deeper then I thought coming into the season where I was ready to crown Kansas, but honestly, I have a feeling that Texas will handle them.

Bill Self always chokesgets out coached in big games, and it wasn't for Calapari having a mental breakdown and never calling a timeout in the championship, he would have choked in that game also.

philcski · #8 12-13-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Florida is good. Syracuse is really good. Better than Kentucky. You want scary? What Syracuse did at the Garden was scary. Way more impressive than anything Kentucky's done.

Well I agree with this- in fact I told my wife yesterday that Syracuse might be the best team in the country. My mama is an SU grad, and they are NY's team, so I have rooted for them all my life. What Boeheim has done this year is incredible after losing his top 3 scorers, if I had to pick a coach for my team it would be him. But UK isn't too far behind right now. It's a 4 horse race right now for best team between KU, Syracuse, UK, and Villanova in my opinion.

Biggest surprises, though, go to Harvard and William & Mary. NOBODY thought they would be good. William & Mary has never even made the tournament and they have a legit at-large profile right now.

otisotisotis · #9 12-13-2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Let's relax a little bit. Those are hardly classic UConn and UNC teams they beat. This is the same team that needed a buzzer beater to get by Miami (OH), gave up 92 points to Sam Houston State and needed OT to beat a crappy Stanford team. Let's see what happens when they get into SEC play.

I think everyone's so used to seeing Kentucky wet the bed early in the year that they're overrating this team for not screwing up terribly yet.

You should think about this.....
1.UK starts 3 FR., a SO. that averaged about 7 minutes a game last year, and a JR. that has to learn a whole new system. That coupled with limited practice time before the season and the fact that they are THE game for some of those teams makes those games close. In regards to Miami - they play everybody tough. Cincinnati only beat them by 4 and I think they just played Dayton down to the wire.
2. They are only going to get better.
3. SEC is improved, but that doesn't mean much because it couldn't have gotten much worse.

4. They would beat Syracuse by 12+ if they played now, 18+ if they play in the tourney.

Cannon Shell · #10 12-13-2009, 02:30 AM

Everybody is better than Louisville

ateamstupid · #11 12-13-2009, 05:08 AM

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You should think about this.....
1.UK starts 3 FR., a SO. that averaged about 7 minutes a game last year, and a JR. that has to learn a whole new system. That coupled with limited practice time before the season and the fact that they are THE game for some of those teams makes those games close. In regards to Miami - they play everybody tough. Cincinnati only beat them by 4 and I think they just played Dayton down to the wire.
2. They are only going to get better.
3. SEC is improved, but that doesn't mean much because it couldn't have gotten much worse.

4. They would beat Syracuse by 12+ if they played now, 18+ if they play in the tourney.

You Kentucky fans are adorable. They're good, but they're being overrated, as UK teams almost always are. All I'm saying. Hope you guys put your money where your mouth is in Vegas in March.

And Wesley Johnson > John Wall.

otisotisotis · #12 12-13-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You Kentucky fans are adorable. They're good, but they're being overrated, as UK teams almost always are. All I'm saying. Hope you guys put your money where your mouth is in Vegas in March.

And Wesley Johnson > John Wall.

LOL! apples and oranges...
i would say Patrick Patterson > Wesley Johnson and

Hopefully they get a chance to square off and settle it.

KY_Sasquash · #13 12-14-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You Kentucky fans are adorable. They're good, but they're being overrated, as UK teams almost always are. All I'm saying. Hope you guys put your money where your mouth is in Vegas in March.

And Wesley Johnson > John Wall.

already have. got them at 10-1.

Will Wesley Johnson even be a lottery pick? he's good, but not John Wall good.

'Cuse is good. They pose the toughest matchup for us because shooting is our weakest facet and that zone could cause us a problem. This UK team plays to the level of their competition as exhibited by the slow starts versus miami of ohio, IU, standford etc... and the starts we had against UNC and UConn. We're very young and we just need to conitue to progress and develop through the season. It's going to be exciting to see how it plays out, especially in March.

Scav · #14 12-13-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by otisotisotis

You should think about this.....
1.UK starts 3 FR., a SO. that averaged about 7 minutes a game last year, and a JR. that has to learn a whole new system. That coupled with limited practice time before the season and the fact that they are THE game for some of those teams makes those games close. In regards to Miami - they play everybody tough. Cincinnati only beat them by 4 and I think they just played Dayton down to the wire.
2. They are only going to get better.
3. SEC is improved, but that doesn't mean much because it couldn't have gotten much worse.

4. They would beat Syracuse by 12+ if they played now, 18+ if they play in the tourney.

Calipari doesn't run a system, it is the easiest 'system' to play because it is mostly one on one and kick out if you don't beat your guy. Dribble/Drive

Those guys have played that 'system' their whole life.

While I think that Ateam(his Big East bias) is underrating Kentucky, I also think that the UK fans are nuts. You are absolutely underrating Syracuse. They are a Final Four type team, and potentially Final Two based on the draw.