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12-10-2009, 06:43 PM
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People often forget that Congaree's Wood win was both his stakes debut and just his 4th lifetime start. The 2001 Wood Memorial was also THE ONLY two-turn dirt race on the entire card at AQU that day. That basically made it a nightmare race for figures makers. It's bad enough to only have one race to work with .. it's worse when that one race consists of a fairly small field of developing 3-year-olds. It makes something very easy to do into a total guessing game. In Congaree's prior start, he won an N1X alw race at SA going just 1/5th slower than the mighty Point Given went on the same card and distance. *Congaree wins the Wood by 2.75 lengths and is given a 108 Beyer. His Beyer jumps to a 109 in the Kentucky Derby when he's the lone survivor of a vicious pace and runs a mind bogglingly good race. * Monarchos runs 2nd beaten 2.75 lengths in the Wood and gets a 103 Beyer. In his prior start to the Wood .. he won the Florida Derby by 4.5 lengths overcoming a huge 6 wide turn move at inside friendly GP and gets a 105 Beyer despite the trip. Next out, he easily wins the KY Derby and gets a 116 Beyer after a dream pace setup. * Richly Blendid runs 3rd beaten 10 lengths in the Wood and gets a 92 Beyer. In his previous start he won a Grade 3 stake with a 101 Beyer. In his next start after the Wood he won a Grade 3 with a 97 Beyer. * It's So Simple runs 4th beaten 14 lengths and gets a 85. In his two prior starts to the Wood, he ran a 87 and 95. In his two starts after the Wood, he runs a 91 and 103. * Voodoo runs 5th beaten 15 lengths and gets a 83. In his prior start he ran a 91 - in his first start after the Wood he cut-back to 6fs and ran a 108 Beyer. * Paging ran 6th and last beaten more than 40 lengths and got a 36 Beyer. He ran a 88 in his prior start when 3rd in the Tampa Derby. He ran a 73 and 85 in his next two after the Wood. Basically....to make a long story short... the '01 Wood figure was a VERY bad guess by a figure maker who was put in a very tricky situation. The 108 was absolutely laughable in hindsight ... it should obviously be 5 to 8 points higher. I would assume the figure maker got so conservative because Congaree was a very lightly raced horse that's stretching out to 9fs and trying stakes company for the first time. It takes real guts to slap a 115 next to a 3yo stakes debuter when you have a very shaky variant. 
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12-10-2009, 07:17 PM
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Congaree wasn't good enough to overcome the 125/1 I got him for in the Derby future book right after he broke his maiden.
Awesome horse though. His derby was one of the most impressive losing performances I remember ever seeing. I think Macho Uno was a much better horse than most people realize too. He seemed to have some mental issues, but I seem to remember that his trainer was insanely cold for about 2-3 years and finally got fired for not being able to win anything with a lot of nice stock.
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12-10-2009, 11:38 PM
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12-11-2009, 01:31 AM
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Yeah, I was expecting a bit more from Congaree as a sire. Usually horses with his running style and quality are great sire candidates.
Much like his own sire!!
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